Fire and Water Records: Soundtrack Selections 4

The most important podcast you've ever heard is back for more! The fourth installment of Soundtrack Selections is here with more songs from the Official Motion Picture Soundtrack to Fire and Water Records! At last, Ryan Daly is joined by his brother Neil Daly to share some more outstanding songs from movie soundtracks. Tune in to find out how many Bruce Springsteen connections Neil can fit on his list (Hint: like, half!), while Ryan is all about the whitewashing on this episode, as his selections feature a surprising number of caucasians on rap and soul tunes.

Track list

  1. “Light of Day” by The Barbusters (aka Joan Jett & The Blackhearts) from Light of Day
  2. “Everybody Needs Somebody to Love” by The Blues Brothers from The Blues Brothers
  3. “Tender Years” by John Cafferty and the Beaver Brown Band from Eddie and the Cruisers
  4. “Lose Yourself” by Eminem from 8 Mile
  5. “Secret Garden” by Bruce Springsteen from Jerry Maguire
  6. “Why Can't I Fall in Love” by Ivan Neville from Pump Up the Volume
  7. “Falling Slowly” by Glen Hansard & Marketa Irglova from Once
  8. “The Midnight Hour” by The Commitments from The Commitments
  9. “Tiny Dancer” by Elton John from Almost Famous
  10. “Sugarhigh” by Coyote Shivers from Empire Records
  11. “Tonight I'm Gonna Rock You Tonight” by Spinal Tap from This is Spinal Tap

Additional music by Ray Parker, Jr.; The Soggy Bottom Boys; Whitney Houston; Prince; Will Smith; Madonna; Seal; Irena Cara.

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11 responses to “Fire and Water Records: Soundtrack Selections 4

  1. Another great episode, Blue…er…Daly Brothers. I had totally forgotten about the existence of Light of Day until Neil mentioned it. I saw this film in the theater in 1987! I don’t think I’ve seen it since. Thanks for the flashback, and the great soundtrack selections. I was nodding my head along to 90% of this one.

    Ryan’s “I have never…” is now THE running gag of the network. Close that Katana Banana Stand and put back the worn out Laura Gemser VHS tapes.


      1. I didn’t say “Hold Me Closer, Tony Danza” but I was definitely humming it to myself during the editing of this ep.

  2. I love this show even though you chuckleheads have never seen a Highlander film.

    So glad Ryan has that patreon level where he’s promised to see every movie.

  3. In the mid ’80s, Michael J. Fox became one of the biggest stars in the world, then almost back-to-back he made two depressing, edgy, urban movies with “Light” in the title that nobody cared about. I remember seeing them in newspaper ads and on video store shelves, but I knew nobody who had seen them or even expressed an interest. I at least caught parts of “Big City” on TV years later, but I’ve never seen more of “Day” than what I caught watching the trailer and some music videos today. I didn’t really get why Springsteen was a big deal back in the day, and even now I’m in the “like a few songs” camp.

    I don’t think I caught The Blues Brothers theatrically, but maybe? And I definitely watched it on broadcast television (ABC?) early, then as often as showings allowed. I was aware of soul music from the oldest station, but the movie was such a vibrant concentration of its appeal and luminaries that I too count it among my favorite musical sub-genres. It just makes you feel the most– happy, sad, horny, whatever. The film is much the same way– a drug-fueled beast whose like was never seen before and could never be replicated today. It was filled with the same manic, irresponsible energy that would kill its co-lead and render a trio of actors deceased under the director’s lack of oversight. They don’t make them like this anymore, and probably shouldn’t, but it remains a joyous creation isolated in its place and time.

    Like Neal, I remember Eddie and the Cruisers’ early cable omnipresence, but never succumbed to it. Same with Streets of Fire and The Philadelphia Experiment, so I figure I must have had an unconscious aversion to Michael Paré. Did like “On The Dark Side” well enough, and would have probably guessed it was a John Cougar song. “Tender Years” doesn’t do much for me.

    I guess Ryan never heard of the Beastie Boys either? I first heard of Eminem when “The Real Slim Shady” was blowing up and kids started turning up with close-cropped bleach jobs. Who was Slim Shady and why should I care if he was the real one? Too much obvious topical reference dropping and juvenile posturing for my taste. I’m sure the clowning helped to ingratiate him and seem less threatening to the black rap establishment, but “The Way I Am” presented his more serious side. I still wasn’t hearing them though, until a friend from the comic shop (probably the owner’s son?) brought in a burn of Dr. Dre’s 2001. We played the shit out of it at the shop, and I took to it in a way I rarely did rap. I still prefer it to The Chronic (though I’m a philistine who dug The Aftermath) and a lot of that was Em’s contributions to “The Watcher,” “What’s the Difference,” “Forgot About Dre,” “Let’s Get High,” and “Bang Bang.” By the time of “Stan” (which helpfully introduced Dido to most of the world, and I adored her first album) I was on board and agreed with the sentiments of “Without Me.” The Eminem Show was his peak and “Lose Yourself” was the flag on top; a rousing crossover classic loved by all. Seriously, does anybody not love that song, and consider who’s asking the question. Also, 8 Mile was a surprisingly solid biopic, and I’m glad dude had the wisdom to quit while he was ahead, instead of becoming the next Dennis Rodman. It really was the millennial Purple Rain, which I guess was Gen-X’s Hard Day’s Night.

    I liked “Secret Garden” when I heard it in Jerry Maguire, and it had pleasant sentiments. I will now forget it exists for another fifteen years.

    “Why Can’t I Fall in Love” was the slow jam on Pump Up The Volume, a film I saw theatrically, featuring my teenage personal role model Christian Slater. I’ve tried to always credit The Fire & Water Podcast for inspiring my podcasting non-career, but I can assure you that it owes just as much of a debt to Happy Harry Hard-On. All this aside, I own the DVD and was mildly mortified watching the movie’s impossibly earnest vacuousness play out as a grown ass man. Besides being unquestionably the better movie, Heathers even has a more valuable social message, if only by actually having one at all. Also, I have a lifetime of being an overly serious introvert to prove that the Samantha Mathises of the world were never chasing after me. “Nora Diniro” type would probably still apply as a shorthand for my ideal mate, but the actress’ career left a lot to be desired, and I’ll never forgive her for starring in an Ayn Rand adaptation. Speaking of desire, we all fell in love with “Wino Forever” because she was a legitimately weird tomboy who also had the beauty and charisma of the popular girls. She’s never need to be a Heather, but she clearly had all the tools, which explains decades long movie career. Winona Ryder is a cultural icon, and Samantha Mathis has… Broken Arrow?

    I bought Once on DVD many years ago, I feel confident that I will love it, my girlfriend has watched Begin Again so many times that I know it by osmosis from rooms away (“Coming Up Roses” slaps,) and that DVD is still sealed.

    I don’t recall if I rented The Commitments on VHS or caught it on cable, but it definitely tossed me back into listening to soul after focusing everywhere else for the latter ’80s and early ’90s. I related a fair amount to those kids then, but like PUTV, it feels lightweight and smug when I try to revisit it.

    I’m the guy who shrugged off Almost Famous. It was fine. “I get why you’d like it” is a familiar refrain from that period. I still remember being astonished by the gaudy equal time randiness of the “I’m Still Standing” music video, and Elton John had big enough hits with “I Guess That’s Why They Call It the Blues” and “Sad Songs (Say So Much)” that I knew who he was despite not really listening to pop. I still thought he was a joke, of course. Who the hell let Carnival Barker Ernst Toht in sequined glasses into the Duran Duran scene? My Cold War fixations extended to an enhanced interest in “Nikita,” though. I immediately fell for “Candle in the Wind” though, and Time/Life hits of the ’70s commercials gave me more exposure to his catalog. Fully recognizing his schmaltz, I can still enjoy his better work. “Tiny Dancer” has a perfect singalong chorus, but otherwise, eh.

    I’m also the guy who saw Empire Records one time. Aside from “A Girl Like You,” kind of a shitty soundtrack, too. From the movie itself, I did like “Plowed” by Sponge and “Little Bastard” by Ass Ponys.

    I’ve never heard of This is Spinal Tap.

  4. Wow, this was one for the ages. You guys really have my musical tastes down. But before I get into that, I have to mention the big miss on this show: Glen Hansard, who starred in “Once” as well as wrote and sang the song that won the Oscar, also starred in the Commitments, playing Oatspan Foster, the guitar player for the band. I truly love the Commitments. It is one of my favorite movies as I am a huge fan of Soul music. I remember watching it when it first showed up on cable in the early 90’s. I was getting free cable in my apartment because my VCR back then would magically unscramble the signal. Anyway, the day after watching it, I went out and found both of the soundtrack albums on CD. I prefer “Mustang Sally” and “The Dark end of the street” over “Midnight Hour” though every song on the first disc is gold.
    “Almost Famous” is my favorite movie of all time and that is saying something. I was pre-teen in the 70’s, but the music ruled my life. That movie played like the soundtrack of my early years, so it is like going home.
    Tiny Dancer was perfect, but I hope you have listened to the “Stillwater” CD that they produced. All the original songs that Crowe’s then-Wife Heart singer/songwriter Nancy Wilson wrote for the movie as songs for the fictional band. Great stuff there.
    I think all of us that saw “Pump up the Volume” when it came out have the same feeling about “Why Can’t I Fall in Love” and the scenes around it in the movie. That song was a staple of any mix cd that I gave to girls in my single days. It always went over well. Another good one for those cd’s was Boston’s “A Man I’ll Never be”.
    I am now going to have to go back and listen to all the other FIRE AND WATER RECORDS as I came in late, if you know what I mean.
    You keep recording, I’ll keep listening.
    Brian Hughes
    3rd Degree Byrne Podcast
    Two True Freaks Internet Radio Network

    1. Yeah, someone else mentioned that Glen Hansard was also in THE COMMITMENTS. I only saw the movie the one time the cast didn’t make impressions on me. I listened to the first volume of the Soundtrack all the time but never even bothered to look at the notes for individual musicians playing. I wish I had thought to check because that is a cool connection and I would’ve liked discussing that on the episode.

      And yeah, I listened to the Stilwater songs because Mike McCreedy of Pearl Jam played guitar, and the bass player in the movie was played by Mark Kozelek, the front man for Red House Painters, who made one of my all-time favorite albums.

  5. An excellent show, fellows! I’m enjoying this Soundtrack Selections more and more, hearing the personal stories of why you like songs or movies you chose. I must admit, I haven’t seen many of these movies, but I felt, as a guy who went to school for music, it almost felt like homework to watch these as they came out. I wish I did (I guess I still could) as they sound like some great movies with great music. The one that I still don’t want to watch, no matter the amount of recommendations, is The Commitments for the mere fact it has “Mustang Sally”. That song was played waaaaaaay too many times in music school and the bars around town that it’s just really soured my taste for it. Having said that, Spinal Tap is one of my favourite movies because it lampoons that music lifestyle. I think that’s why I also like A Mighty Wind. Even when they lampoon the music, they still write great tunes and I love the music in both those films.

    Have you guys seen any of the jazzier music movies like Bird or Whiplash? Or do you just prefer the more rock-focused movies?

    Anyways, you were both fantastic and I’ve got some work to catch up on these shows! Keep up the great work!

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