FW Presents – Scooby-Doo! & Batman: Brave and the Bold

FW PRESENTS – Scooby-Doo! & Batman: Brave and the Bold

In this special Sunday edition of FW PRESENTS, members of the Fire and Water Gang (Shag, Rob, Chris, Max, and Nathaniel, plus Guest Star Jarrod Alberich) get together to discuss the new Scooby-Doo movie, SCOOBY-DOO! & BATMAN: BRAVE THE THE BOLD, guest-starring Aquaman, Plastic Man, Martian Manhunter, Black Canary, The Question, and Detective Chimp!

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18 responses to “FW Presents – Scooby-Doo! & Batman: Brave and the Bold

  1. Outstanding episode, gentlemen! Such a fun conversation to listen to…

    I watched SCOOBY DOO AND BATMAN: THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD in preparation for this episode, and found it enjoyable, but it didn’t hit me the way it did the rest of you. That’s probably because I don’t have the same affection for or familiarity with the Scooby Gang.

    I remember Scooby Doo being on TV a lot when I was a kid, but I never got into it. I saw a few episodes and didn’t really like it, but it syndicated before or after other cartoons that I did like, so I felt like I was constantly catching the beginning and ending of episodes, and thus felt like I watched it a lot. And yet, basic elements of the show eluded me throughout my childhood, either a cause or result of me not “getting” the show.

    For instance, and I’m neither joking or exaggerating, I didn’t now Shaggy was meant to be a contemporary of the other kids. To me, he looked much older. I seriously thought he was in his ’40s, a vagrant or homeless war veteran living out of his van with a dog. And for the life of me, I could never understand why these smart, rich teenagers hung out with him. When I saw the movie WITH HONORS starring Joe Pesci as a bum living in Harvard’s law library, I thought, “Oh, this is like a straight version of Scooby Doo without the dog or the monsters.”

    I also never knew the other kids’ names until I watched SCOOBY DOO AND BATMAN. I knew Shaggy and Scooby, and I was 90% sure one of the girls was named Velma, but not positive because that’s not a name. I swear I didn’t the red head was Daphne, and I didn’t even remember the Aryan boy’s name was Fred until you guys mentioned it on the podcast.

    I knew Rob already had a packed house for this episode (though not as packed as Shag’s apparently), and I didn’t want to harsh everyone’s mellow like I did on the Star Wars episode of Film and Water. That’s the answer to the mystery of why I didn’t appear on this episode.

    Or, as Rob put it, Last Jedi Therapy Camp.

    Also, Jarrod’s voice was a welcome addition to the group. If he wants to host a monthly Star Wars podcast on the Fire and Water Network…

    1. Ryan….Ryan. You my friend, are far more broken than any of us realized. I think we may need to skip ahead to the Wagner/Grant/Breyfogle run on Knightcast. I’m not sure your shattered soul can take anymore Max Allan Collins.


    2. I quite enjoyed Ryan’s take on these characters. I have a fondness for them, but I do like the idea of three rich kids who drive their drug dealer around and solve mysteries together.

      I’m curious, Ryan: did you know your very own Shag Matthews drew his nickname from Shaggy?

      1. I heard Shag say years ago that his name came from Shaggy, but I thought he might be joking. I mean, imagine how much better the FW community would be if it had been founded by Rob Kelly and the Irredeemable Lion-O.

  2. Very fun discussion guys! A couple of footnotes:

    I am sure most of you are aware that the Scooby gang is based on the Dobie Gillis characters: Dobie, Thalia, Zelda, & Maynard G. Krebs (played by the great Bob Denver).

    Katr Micucci took on the Velma role after Mindy Cohn (Facts of Life) had played the part for about 15 years.

    If anyone hasn’t seen “Mystery Incorporated” be sure to check it out. It’s great! It has a serialized story with lots of real emotion/drama, and some characters are even killed off.

    There are nearly a dozen Scooby=centric podcasts out there at the moment. I’ve been listening lately to “Scooby Doos and Scooby Don’ts” which is chronologically going through all Scooby media. They are just wrapping up the Scrappy era (The Dark Times_.

    Be sure to check out the recent series “Be Cool, Scooby Doo,” I was originally put off by the Family Guy art style but it is really good. It’s more focused on comedy and it’s unique interpretation of Daphne is weirdly fun.

  3. Great movie, and great episode. Surprised to not find Frank here to chime in on the Manhunter. I had just finished reading the latest “Scooby-Doo Team Up” two-parter with the Birds of Prey before I watched this last night, so I was definitely on the same page in hoping for a SDTU ongoing animated series! That comic is currently my favorite version of the in-print DC universe. Thanks for pointing out all of the deep cuts and Easter eggs, too.

  4. A very enjoyable episode. I really need to watch the film soon.

    BTW. Rob, did you read last year’s Justice League vs Suicide Squad mini-series? They had a great fight scene between Aquaman and Killer Croc, including a hilarious variant cover by Amanda Conner.

  5. I was amused at the mild rebukes given for not having watched more of Batman: The Brave and the Bold, given its origins on cable (I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’ve never paid for cable in my adult life. Either I got it paid for by my college when I was there 20+ years ago, I watch when visiting others, or I don’t get cable at all) and the difficulty in finding episodes on any of the streaming services today. I did enjoy BTBATB on Netflix a few years ago, having gotten JUST to the Music Meister episode before Netflix lost access to that series (Soooooo glad I was able to get that far, if no farther! SUCH a great episode!). It would be one thing if we were talking about Batman: The Animated Series, which pretty much anyone, almost anywhere, could have watched for free. But cable-only shows are another matter altogether.

    That said, this truly sounds like a fun movie. I’ll have to check it out.

  6. This was a hilarious meeting of the League of Very Ordinary Gentlemen! I look forward to eventually seeing this with my daughter. She and I greatly enjoyed the Brave and the Bold cartoon. It was a wonderful way to introduce her to so many DC characters! Your descriptions of all the cameos and references have me greatly intrigued! As to the Mystery Analysts of Gotham City, I think that my first awareness of them came in a Superman story. Steve Lombard was the nephew of mystery writer, and Mystery Analyst, Kaye Daye!

  7. I was already planning to get this movie for my daughter for her birthday, but now I’m not sure I want to wait that long. Great discussion, and great to hear everyone having so much fun together (or at least acting like they were having fun). Kudos, either way.

  8. The movie sounds great, I’ll be iTunes-ing it soon.

    But wow, this podcast was hilarious! You guys had me laughing so hard! Thank you!

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