On this episode of Peace Bound and Down: A Wonder Woman Podcast, Sean is joined by the cafinated Clinton Robison to discuss issue 11 of volume two of Wonder Woman. Are you ready for Diana to kill the Hydra? Dare you learn the fate of the Amazons who died gaurding the hellmouth? Are you ready for the Challenge of the Gods to continue?
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Come for the Wonder Woman, stay for the booger and dong talk! (I guess that’s what you get when you book Clinton)
Hey Sean, right after the Berserker talk with Clinton, the show seems to go silent for about two minutes. Strange. You might want to look into that.
I love the “hold music” idea. For some reason, still, in 2025, most hold music sounds like it is being played off a bootlegged cassette via a boombox held under water. It’s almost literally so difficult to listen to (I know that’s the point, they WANT you to hang up). My choice of hold voice would be Bob Dylan, because his bizarre intonations would make such boring hold messages at least sound interesting.
Great episode, even with Clinton!
I never promised to bring QUALITY. I simply bring out the…creative…podcasting in people.
Rob,
Thanks for listening!
I listened to the episode and I don’t have the silent stretch. Gremlins!
I feel like hold music done by Alan Alda or Mike Farrell would be so comforting!
I’m gonna ask this because some has two are planing to a podcast mini series on Hawk solo series from the 80’s called this Hawk flys solo where you and different guest broadcast from west coast head quarters about the mini series?
Now my secret question : I heard D&D mention the cartoon let’s say wonder girl and wonder tot watched the following cartoons , Jem and holograms, the D&D cartoon and she-ra as well rocket Robin Hood and king Author and his knights of justice which do you think they would like best and would adult Wonder Woman like any of these shows still as adult ?
Interesting secret question, Bucky. I know Sean does the better job of answering, but I’ll give it a shot. I’d say Wonder Girl an Wonder Tot would appreciate both Jem and She-Ra, especially for the empowerment of women. Adult Wonder Woman might have a fondness for D&D saying it reminds her of childhood adventures. However, I great appreciate the King Arthur and the Knights of Justice mention. That show has a them song to rival the 90’s X-Men intro.
I agree with Clinton – the (relatively) recent She-Ra reboot was AMAZING!
Great discussion of the issue and so cool to remember that Hydra fight.
The secret questions were flying fast and furious and I don’t think I remember them all. So as best as I can ..
I live in Massachusetts but consider myself a Rhode Islander. Love that the Happy Harbor JLA HQ was in the Ocean State. (story in home area)
I immediately thought of the mountain in Close Encounters when you asked which mountain is my favorite in pop culture.
Fave armored look – Love the Thor answer because it was necessary for the story. I am going to stretch it and say the Super-Mobile is armor that allowed Superman to continue to use his powers.
Favorite Millenium plant – also Laurel Kent. It obviously was a cash grab to put the Legion into the event. But it makes ZERO sense. She woke up a 1000 yrs later and maintained her mission? She allowed herself to be hurt by a K-bullet in the annual and got medical care and no one knew she was a robot? But man … Grell knew how to draw her!
I love the idea of the ‘Go To …’. I get asked a lot about Catholic stuff, or approach to social stuff through the lens of traditional Italian-american values. So if anyone needs some of that I am here!
Ack! Remembered another secret question –
Two people fighting who were both right. Not exactly a physical fight but the confrontation between Rorscach and Dr. Manhattan at the end of Watchmen is more a battle of ethics. Rorschach says people need to know the truth that Veidt has killed millions in NY. That’s right. Manhattan knows that revealing the truth will lead to the end of a sudden peace.
Of course, the fight is completely one-sided with Rorscach evaporated. But the moment is tense …
Anj,
I had forgotten that Happy Harbor is in Rhode Island! Great call.
Also loved the Close Encounters reference. It’s a (Rob Kelly voice) classic.
Love all the secret questions! Clinton came PREPARED!
When you were talking about the Oklahoma airport, it reminded me of the fantastic Christopher Priest Deathstroke run during Rebirth, when several scenes happen in Minnesota. As a Minneapolis native, that was a treat for me – especially when Deathstroke flies about the MSP international airport – the artist definitely did his research on what that airport looks like from the top! I also liked seeing the big Cherry on the Spoon sculpture in Tom King’s Adam Strange miniseries, since Mr. Terrific apparently hangs out in Minneapolis in that book. 😀
Thanks, Ian. I cam prepared alright. Prepared to annoy my buddy Sean. Good for me he provided the quality answers to my nonsense.
Great call on the Priest Deathstroke run. Always fun to see to when people do their research on a location. (See also visual depictions of Tulsa in the animated series of The Ray).
It adds such a fun element when artists add real elements from a city to the story. On the other hand, when an artist gets it completely wrong, it pulls me out of the story. The first three issues of JLA Classified are supposed to be set in Phoenix, but it has more in common with Asgard.
Did Sean have a normal adolescence / childhood at all? Candid Camera??? So we could have seen Sean together with Alan Funt?
DAG – I also did a commercial for MTV on MTV Spring Break years ago! That’s a story for a future episode though.
Sean Ross: Sun’s Out Gun’s Out Edition, keeping it real and kicking it live with MTV Spring Break!
Glad that you mentioned Diana’s comment about learning the story of Hydra from julia’s books. It’s kind of like saying “Well, I was born and raised in Madrid, but I learned Spanish during that year I spent as an exchange student in America”.
I am not a cosplayer, but my wife has put together many costumes and she has told me about the dance belt. She learned it from a panel at a convention several years ago.
My hometown is in the blue Ridge Mountains of NC quite close to the highest point east of the Mississippi. It’s so small that the students at Sean’s high school would have outnumbered the entire population. I’ve never seen the area depicted in comics. In fact, the only time that I can recall a similar locale being portrayed in comics were the moments in the New Mutants when we saw Sam Guthrie’s home in Kentucky.
As far as fictional mountains, the first that came to mind were the LOTR peaks mentioned in the podcast. But Challengers Mountain was always a fun headquarters as well.
As far as armored up characters, it’s probably Alan Scott from Kingdom Come. And yes, Sean, I love Gruenwald’s Cap run, but the later issues where Steve is paralyzed and gets a suit of armor from Tony Stark are not the best.
And I haven’t spent much time in Oklahoma, but one of my favorite bands The Call had OK roots and even wrote and recorded a great song called Oklahoma.
As always, thanks for the fun hour and a half or so.
Challenger Mountain is such a good call! It would have made an awesome play set.
Excellent show Sean and Clinton, I remember Challenge of the Gods wasn’t my favourite, because I thought our heroine should be declaring war on those Olympian bullies, not running around proving herself to them. Still, this did have that mindboggling final page, and the lighter art of Perez/Patterson was very nice. I can’t remember, did Hippolyte’s scary vulture ever prove to have anything to do with the price of peas?
It’s interesting about your wife being upset about people being upset about Princess Diana dying on her birthday, Sean, but I know exactly what she means – in the UK it was ridiculous, people were weeping in the streets as if they knew her personally. Weirdly, the week the real-life Princess Diana died we had Wonder Woman #126, declaring DIANA, PRINCESS OF THEMISCYRA, STRUCK DOWN.
As regards the Olympian Morpheus not looking like the Neil Gaiman version, it’s a shame George Perez didn’t have a few years’ advance notice of the idea that Morpheus was at this point in a cellar in England… he could’ve chosen Morpheus to be the Manhunter agent instead of Pan, and at the end of the story the Olympians could’ve said, but where’s the real Morpheus, and that would’ve been left dangling, and everyone would marvel at the longterm planning when all was revealed.
My least favourite armour, by a long way, is the one worn by Alan Scott in the latter days of the JSA series from the early 2000 – he’s looks like a flying boiler; seriously, look it up, Justice Society of America #49 from 2006.
I love the idea of Morpheus being the Manhunter, Martin! And that Wonder Woman cover coincidence is a bit on the nose, innit?
Really fun episode, Sean and Clinton. The Lasso of Truth segment was great and I laughed at Clinton’s Wonder Man podcast bit.
I really dug the page where it was just Diana in all-white panels juxtaposed against the danger. And yeah, that Morpheus bit threw me for a real loop. Super cool last page as well.
Sean, when you’re ready to start your Will Payton Starman contest, I am all in.
Favorite use of a mountain, real or otherwise, in fiction: In the ’90s there was an animated series called EXO-SQUAD that tied into a toy line of the same name. It was a not-at-all-subtle ripoff of Robo-Tech, but I discovered Exo-Squad first so I loved it more. Anyway, the first season ends with this daring mission to and escape from the villains’ base on Olympus Mons, the volcano on Mars. This is how and when I learned that a) Olympus Mons exists, and b) it is the tallest mountain in our solar system. Entertaining and educational, because I used that knowledge to impress my science teacher later on.
Favorite surprise return for a beloved character: This one is way outside the SF/Fantasy genre; during the first season of the TV series SPORTS NIGHT, one of the show’s main cast members, the great Robert Guillaume, suffered a stroke. Aaron Sorkin, the creator and writer of the show, worked that into series so that Guillaume’s character, Isaac, the managing editor of Sports Night, had a stroke and didn’t appear on screen during the last six or seven episodes. At the end of the season finale, when couples have broken up and everything seems to be going wrong and they can’t even get a photo camera to work, Dana, played by the amazing (and felonious) Felicity Huffman, begs, “I want something good to happen! One thing. Can’t I get one good thing to happen.” Cue a recognizable voice from off-screen: “Hey, Lady.” And they pan over to Robert Guillaume as Isaac standing there wondering if his staff is ever going to get back to work and make the TV show. It’s such a beautifully set-up moment and so powerfully realized because it’s not just the heroic return of a character, but the actor’s first on-screen appearance again since nearly dying.
I loved Exo-Squad. That show seriously needs a full series bluray release. Such an underrated gem.
And while I’ve never actually watched Sport Night (yes, I’m a heretic, burn me at the stake or whatever) that is a great return moment.