CHEERS Season 1, episode 5: "Coach's Daughter"
Hosted by Ryan Daly with special guest Andy Kapellusch.
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17 responses to “Cheers Cast 1.05: Coach’s Daughter”
Here’s my attempt at a No-Prize:
When Sam says that was the end of his baseball career in 1974, he’s not speaking literally. I think that was the last year before his drinking, so while he continued to play the game, he looks at those three years (in 1982 Sam says he’s been out of baseball 5 years, so that takes us to 1977) as sort of separate from his baseball career proper.
I always thought Alyce Beasley was totes adorbs, and as you mention it’s a shame they never brought her back or at least mentioned her on the show again. Presumably she’s hanging out with Sam’s ex-wife and his brother.
I didn’t know that Cheers repeated that bit with the science lab guy–I knew it felt oddly familiar, but now I know that I have literally seen it twice, but in slightly altered versions. Odd!
Poor Alyce Beasley often was hired to play the “ugly duckling” card, most notably in Loaded Weapon 1, where she played a character who took her hair down, and was suddenly played by super model Kathy Ireland. I too often wonder how that makes an actor or actress feel. That kind of stuff definitely wouldn’t fly today.
Dude! I worked with an actress who was hired to play a girl so hideous the lead character would only have sex with her if she wore a bag over her head! Funny how she never talks about that one role…
You worked on Nip/Tuck?
Nice catch, Ryan! I did not work on Nip/Tuck, but the actress in question did work at Disney. I learned about the N/T role through a mutual friend.
Incidentally, a good friend of mine has a great Juilan MacMahon story. She was working on a pilot with him when someone on the crew got their hand badly cut. MacMahon rushes over to her, stiffarms the people around her and says, “I can take care of this. I played a doctor for seven years.”
He was also DOCTOR Doom…but let’s all pretend that never happened.
I looked up Beasley’s appearance on Gotham (feeling obligated because you bums don’t watch the best comics show on TV… bastards). Going into detail is a bit of a spoiler for the episode she’s in but you guys don’t watch anyways (CURSE YOU ALL TO THE DEPTHS OF… sorry… I’m ok… I think).
She appeared during the introduction of Arkham Asylum in the first season episode called Rogues Gallery. She’s a nurse who gives Gordon his preliminary tour, and is later revealed to be an inmate masquerading as a nurse in order to free other inmates (most notable at that point in the show was the Electrocutioner). She didn’t make any subsequent appearances, which is a shame because she did the part well and Gotham hasn’t been shy about having the occasional original character.
Great discussion, gentlemen. I haven’t seen this episode of Cheers before, but it sounds like a great one. I always enjoy Alyce Beasley, when I she pops up in something I’m watching, like her Gotham appearance. Also, that clip you played at the end of your episode had me tearing up, while sitting at my desk at work. Good stuff.
This is the chocolate and peanut butter of episodes! Love Andy and I kind of like Ryan sometimes! Great show, fellas.
Agreed – the Diane as artist things seems to come up a bit too soon in the run.
“Those three shows”
Someone has forgotten The Tortellis.
Oh how I envy them.
Damn you for making me chug five episodes of Cheers (I had to cheat the system, damn it Canada) and five episodes of CheersCast! I’m in like Flynn.
And damn this episode 5 tear-jerker. Coach really is the most touching of characters.
Damn everything to hell.
Glad you’re able to get access to the shows so you can follow along. Doubly so since I didn’t want to pay to ship the DVDs to you.
Here’s a story about this episode. Being one of the first episodes produced, the live audience that attended the tapings wasn’t as yet familiar with the characters. I think I read this on the great Ken Levine’s blog. When they shot the scene with Coach and Lisa in Sam’s office, the audience laughed at the line “You look just like your mother”. Instead of taking it in the sweet way it was intended, they probably thought Coach was being mean or sarcastic. It was decided to take the laugh out in post, and leave the moment as a sincere one, which was the original intent. Three months later, that audience would have taken the moment as intended, but they weren’t on the air yet at that point, so they didn’t.
This episode cemented Coach as the show’s father figure, beyond the funny clueless slightly-paternal character. Another example of how amazing Nick was as an actor, and what the show missed when we lost him. Dammit, Nick, don’t make me cry again!
I have not watched every episode of Cheers. Far from it. But the ones I have watched have made some kind of lasting impact. Each of your previous analyses in this podcast had me thinking, “Oh, yeah, I remember that!” Until this one. I don’t recall ever having seen any of this one. Even without benefit of memory, vision, or seeing the episode properly, when you played the audio of that scene, Coach made me choke up. Masterful.
I hadn’t gone back to watch the entire series, but am watching each episode again along with this podcast. I started watching Cheers when it first aired and watched almost every episode first run. While it was never my favorite TV show (M*A*S*H all the way), it was always a must see show.
That being said, I never noticed the repeated opening scene before. I must have watched both episodes before, but at 11 or 12 years old, I probably thought I just remembered it wrong if the names and faces were different. It does seem like an odd practice at this time in television history. Sure, there was no VHS/DVD/streaming services for people to watch these episodes binge-style. Syndicated reruns, however, were definitely a thing at that time. I am a big fan of old time radio shows, The Jack Benny Program being one of my favorites. When Benny started doing both television and radio at the same time, he would occasionally reuse scenes and sometimes entire scripts from years before for the radio show. The writers would update the names and songs, but otherwise it was a beat for beat recreation of a previous show. At the time, I’m sure it never occurred to them that, years later, fans would be listening to the show over and over. I wonder if the writers and producers for Cheers weren’t very optimistic about the chance of hitting the 100 episode milestone for syndication.
I don’t think the writers and producers were optimistic about getting a second season, let alone making it to syndication.
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