Superman II Movie Minute #25 – Garbage Eating Garbage

SUPERMAN II MOVIE MINUTE #25 - Garbage Eating Garbage

Fire and Water Network All-Stars Chris Franklin and Rob Kelly bring you SUPERMAN II MOVIE MINUTE, where they analyze, scrutinize, and you'll-believe-a-man-can-fly-ize the classic 1980 film starring Christopher Reeve, Gene Hackman, Margot Kidder, and Terence Stamp, five minutes at a time!

In minutes 12000 - 12500, Clark has a rematch with Rocky, and Superman helps rebuild the White House. Special Guest: Mike Gillis!

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11 responses to “Superman II Movie Minute #25 – Garbage Eating Garbage

  1. I think Mike Gillis might have stumbled upon the answer to both why Rocky had immunity AND how the diner was repaired so quickly.
    Rocky WAS the Prime Minister of Canada! It explains everything!
    I’m in agreement with the whole bully comeuppance scene. Rocky will think twice before he picks on another person.
    As far as the “Wash Room”, with the diner being a truck stop, they may have literally had a room for truckers to wash up in, with hot showers and lockers.

  2. Okay, guys. Now here where it all falls apart.

    Not to be “That Guy who rips apart my childhood favorite moments”, but how likely is it that one of the best investigative reporters in the world would not look into the time she lost? It’s ludicrous.

    For the record, I’ve always appreciated the ‘charm’ of the Silver Age Supes stories, but here… I don’t know. Not my cup of tea.

    As for Mr Wonderful – he got what he deserved.

    And it’s always terrific to hear the ‘Mazing Mike Gillis on the mic. Love that guy.

  3. What’s on the menu for the wrap party for Superman II Movie Minute, you guys?
    Freshly squeezed OJ
    Spaghetti from Don’s Diner
    Ice cream, until the wind blows it off your cone into your friend’s face
    Souffle and champagne
    Hot dogs from Niagara
    Coffee from NASA Mission Control
    Beans & fish from the East Houston lunch counter where they have a wide selection
    That perfectly good beverage you discard into the lake that you’ve just seen Zod walk on
    Red and yellow S-shield Fruit Roll-Ups (perfect for tossing)

  4. Love the podcast; sorry the credits are rolling at the end of this one.

    I’m one of those people that doesn’t care for the diner scene at the end of Superman II. I mean, I like it… it’s a feel-good ending and expertly manipulates the emotions, but it just doesn’t feel right to me. After everything he’s been through, it’s like Superman has had this nagging at the back of his mind and isn’t going to consider business concluded until he takes care of that guy. Would he be so petty? Why does he need the satisfaction?

    That’s why I’m very interested in that potential cut scene where a bump in the lobby makes him think of the diner. It’s less calculated and more organic, if that makes sense.

    I appreciate your acknowledgment of other opinions, and I certainly appreciate yours. Thanks for doing what you do…

  5. While I haven’t commented often, I have loved this review of the series.

    Like you guys I get the long version, the theatrical version, and even the ‘Donner Cut’ jumbled in my head.

    It seems everyone has a line in this they say they quote all the time. For me it is the exchange ‘he cares for these people’ ‘like pets?’ ‘I suppose so.’

    I am not a fan of finger lasers, holograms, and cellophane s-shields. Give me a break.

    But I love this movie. Terence Stamp chews up the scenery so gloriously!

    Thanks for the show!

  6. Just wanted to say a quick thank-you to Rob and Chris for both of the Superman Movie minute shows. They were a fun listening during the drudgery of work.

    Still, Superman 3 movie minute….How long will that show actually last? I tried to watch Superman 3 again a few months ago and, less than five minutes in, I could tell the series had ran into a ditch.

  7. While we go on about the diner… just a thought in the back of my mind regarding “freshly squeezed OJ & hamburgers” in the morning that has grown.

    It’s not morning sickness, obviously. And yet, is she eating for two alluva sudden? Supes was technically human for that Kryptonian bed scene…

  8. This was a very enjoyable episode! Mike brought a lot of enthusiasm and fun! However, I am in the other camp regarding the second diner scene. I vividly remember the unbridled joy I felt at the cinema when this movie ended! Whatever problems I might have had with the odd powers and goofiness of the battle scene was swept away with that cathartic ending! But, afterwards, (how long afterwards? I do not remember) I dislike it. Not only because it is out of character for Superman, it’s nearly psychotic for anyone! Who travels a thousand miles for revenge? And not revenge because someone shot his pa, or unfairly sentenced him to a prison, or some other trope. If a friend of yours, (or you child) told you that they were going on a trip of a thousand miles for the express purpose of inflicting violence upon someone, how who’d you react to that? Look, Clark challenged Rocky to a fight. Clark lost the fight. Try not to dwell on it. Even Batman didn’t track down Joe Chill until the opportunity presented itself! There were more important things to do. I understand the wish-fulfillment aspect of the superhero figure, and especially role it played in Jerry Siegel’s creation of Superman. That is why I like the character of Steve Lombard in the 70s comics. He satisfies that want of the reader of heroic fiction to strike back in some way at the tormentors and teasers of adolescence. Now, IF they REALLY needed to have a scene of Rocky’s comeuppance, they could have done it by having Rocky come to Metropolis. (He drives a truck.) He bumps into Clark as Clark is getting the burger and OJ or whatever. Rocky gives Clark a shove. Clark asks for, not demands, an apology. Rocky refuses. Clark takes his revenge subtlety. A sudden unexplained frozen slippery spot where Rocky is walking? Eighteen flat tires? His chair collapses in the restaurant to great humiliation? His pants fall down? Clark gets satisfaction. The audience has no sympathy for Rocky. Order is restored. (I think pants falling down is something right in Lester’s wheelhouse.)

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