Superman III Movie Minute #18 – Composite Superman

SUPERMAN III MOVIE MINUTE #18 - Composite Superman

Fire and Water Network All-Stars Chris Franklin and Rob Kelly are back with SUPERMAN III MOVIE MINUTE, where they analyze, scrutinize, and you'll-believe-a-man-can-fly-ize the Man of Steel's third big screen adventure starring Christopher Reeve, Richard Pryor, Annette O'Toole, and Robert Vaughn, five minutes at a time!

In minutes 1:25:00-1:30:00, Superman goes mad and has a fight with...Clark Kent! Special Guest: Michael Bailey!

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6 responses to “Superman III Movie Minute #18 – Composite Superman

  1. Firstly, wow. I wish I could muster the enthusiasm for anything the way Michael Bailey can celebrate this movie. I neither like nor hate this movie, it simply exists to me. Great scenes, but overall a meh of a production IMO. But I digress…

    So the big fight – it’s got to be metaphorical. Yes, Superman exhibits all sorts of weird-ass powers in these movies (e.g. rebuilding-a-wall-vision), but I’m not sure this is that. It’s a battle of the soul!

    Also, Cfranks sure does mention the teenage drinking of the Kent kids quite a bit. LIke a lot. Like it could be its own drinking game…

  2. i remember watching this battle as a kid , and feeling frightened by Evil Superman beating up on Clark .
    as an adult , i totally enjoy the ” Mara VS Buddha ” parallel aspect behind this scene , and i too believe they did split into two , because they totally tore the junkyard appart . IMO Evil Superman is almost a manifestation of the negative feelings young Clark may have felt being different from everyone ,of being a monster , an alien , an outsider … and Clark represents the love and nurturing elements , morals and good that the Kents (and even perhaps Jor-El ) have bestowed onto him . Many think Superman can be Superman without the Clark Kent aspect … but i disagree, the best Superman in comics and films are the ones where he is Superman with Clark’s humanity in him . ….. and that’s why Crapvill Superman Sucks !!! ( i just had to throw that in )

  3. Put me in the “the split really happened” camp. As Chris Fernandez mentioned above, there is physical evidence of the junkyard being torn up by the fight, which included a lot of tossing each other into equipment, etc. (Unless it’s some sort of Fight Club parking lot thing, but that’s a stretch.) As for Rob’s question regarding why the split is Superman and Clark and not Good Superman and Bad Superman, I think it’s an attempt at saying that Superman without Clark would be missing that important humanity instilled by Ma and Pa Kent. Without the grounding of Clark, Superman becomes an example of absolute power corrupting absolutely. It’s a drum I’ve beaten more than once — the identity of Clark is just as important, if not more important, than the role of Superman.

    Also, thanks for reminding me off Annette O’Toole in Cross My Heart; I think I blacked out for a second but it was worth it.

  4. Whenever I see this scene, I’m reminded of this comic that would have been on the stands as they were planning to film:
    DC Comics Presents # 50, where Superman teams up with …. Clark Kent …. thanks to some Silver Age wish mcguffin or other.

    Now I assume that this script would have been complete by then, but I’ve always wondered if someone saw this book, at some point and that it inspired the scene.

    I’ve also wondered why the crew went to England to film this junkyard scene. Calgary has multiple crappy and scary looking scrap yards on the east side of the city. As a matter of fact, I’d always thought they HAD filmed out there, but I’ve since learned that it was done in Jolly Olde.
    Maybe the marketing people in City Hall weren’t showing off THOSE location scenes.


  5. It was great having Michael on for the best scene in this movie. Just like the Clark-Supes fight, his inclusion brought everything up a notch. Great job!

    To chime in on the big question, I don’t believe anyone has mentioned that there’s actually precedent for Superman physically splitting in two within the Donner-verse. In Superman 2, he enters the crystal chamber to remove his powers, and right there on screen, he splits into a fading away Superman and solid Gap Clark. For my money, when that happens once, it’s artistic license. Twice? That cements it as a real power of Kryptonians, or of some energy involved. Like the crystal chamber and the kryp-tar-nite have similar radiation, but the different compositions and situations allowed this split to be much more delayed, plus manifesting as 2 solid beings for a time. But like in Superman 2, as Evil-man starts losing, that also causes him to fade away.

    And that is my entry for a No-Prize. 🙂

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