JSA in the 90s – Spotlight on Doctor Fate’s Legacy in the 1990s

It’s a Spotlight episode of JSA IN THE 90s, exploring the magical legacy of DOCTOR FATE throughout the 1990s! Jon Wilson and The Irredeemable Shag peer into their crystal ball to examine the heroes who wielded the power of Doctor Fate in the ’90s, from Inza Nelson to Jared Stevens and beyond! Our spotlight issues are DOCTOR FATE #39 (1992) and FATE #11 (1995)! Finally, we wrap things up with YOUR listener feedback!

 

 

 

 

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25 responses to “JSA in the 90s – Spotlight on Doctor Fate’s Legacy in the 1990s”

  1. Wait you guys got to read the female DR fate? Lucky My brother made too much fun of me for buying the female Dr fate when I “NEVER” BOUGHT” the male dr fate. This was a savage injustice! I read the flash backups and ALL STAR SQUADRON
    i think IF fate/nabu was always the same being he’s always been a jerk. is’nt Kent Nelson an aged up 8 year old

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  2. Using Guy Gardner as an analogy for Jared Stevens isn’t especially helpful to me, since I’ve NEVER liked Guy, and find him in no way enjoyable. The most enjoyable moments of his participation in JLI were when Batman punched him out (you’ll notice that I have avoided the use of the phrase designating how many punches were used. You’re welcome!) 😉

    Seriously, though, this was an enjoyable bit of insight into a corner of the 90s DC Universe of which I’ve been ignorant. Inza Nelson’s tenure as Dr. Fate is one I look forward to exploring further.

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  3. One of my favorite characters! His look caught my attention back with the super powers figure when I was a kid and I’ve spent years trying to learn as much as I can. Thanks to great podcasts like this one, that’s a lil easier now than when I was a kid relying on douche bag comic book employees who had lil time or patience for a 10 year old with lotsa questions! Thanks for everything you guys do and keep up the good work.

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  4. I have a handful of issues of the Doctor Fate series from bargain bins and enjoyed them all, but the way you guys described the series makes me think I’ve got to jump on DCUI and read the whole thing from start to finish. I think I’ll do that after I finish the Ostrander/Mandrake Spectre series you spotlighted last year. I had a similar bargain-bin relationship with that series. But I’ve been distracted: the new character in New Titans had me rereading the Peyer/Morales Hourman series. Similarly, I’ve been trying to write an in-continuity history of the Hawks for my site and ended up going on a Hawkworld reading spree. That Ostrander guy is a great writer! But I digress. Doctor Fate #39 was a great read, and it really holds up decades later.

    I loved Fate #0–4 when they came out, but I think they fall into the category of that Peter Graham quote: “The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve.” I loved Doctor Fate as a kid. I loved his appearances in my dad’s old comics, I loved his action figure, and I loved that Easter Island issue of Super Powers. He was probably my favorite JSAer, and I have to say, Shag, a lot of that had to do with his cool, unique appearance. But my 12-year-old brain was instantly sold on Jared Stevens when I saw that house ad that said, “Fate… the doctor is out.” I mean, could you get any cooler than that?

    As an adult, I reread the series as DCUI was putting up the back issues. Issues #0–4 definitely didn’t hold up as well as the rest of the series, but they still gave me some great nostalgic vibes. It’s funny that you compared his personality to Guy Gardner’s. I can see that. But when I reread the series, Jared automatically had Wolverine’s voice from the ’90s X-Men animated series. He’s a jerk who didn’t want to be put in this situation, but since he’s in it, he’s going to make the best of it the best way he can.

    Twelve-year-old Dave was also instantly sold on his look: the ankh brand over his eye, the gold knife and daggers, and the shoulder armor. How is that not peak coolness? But seriously, I do think the later visual adjustments, the haircut and switching his clothes from red to slate gray, pulled his look together much better and tied it a little closer to Doctor Fate’s color palette. I even liked the further update in The Book of Fate: moving the brand down so the circle sat around his eye, the real-world clothes, and the t-shirt with the changing message. Visually, it sat perfectly between the main DCU line and Vertigo. But that’s pretty much where my praise stops for Jared’s second series.

    I didn’t care for his reworked origin. Alan Scott was beyond a jerk and out of character. Arnold Burnsteel left for Scare Tactics, and I missed his dynamic with Jared. I did develop a bit of head canon to explain the changes, though. In that JSA Secret Files story, we see Jared change his look with ease, and he looks different again when he shows up in JSA #1. I always figured he could see people’s fates, or possible fates, similar to what he does with Black Canary in JSA Secret Files story. That would give him a weird relationship with Hypertime and reality. Essentially, reality is always shifting around him, and he can tell when it does. Even his look shifts, but because of magic, he’s aware of it.

    Anyway, I think the first Fate series is definitely worth reading (especially if you skip ahead to #5). It’s a fun series, and I loved the issues with the Conclave. I thought it was a really cool concept, especially since the group included both heroes and villains. It really felt like a predecessor to Alan’s team, the Sentinels of Magic. Speaking of Alan, when we recorded the episode I was on, you were surprised that I’d clocked that Alan could be a real jerk sometimes. After rereading this issue, I’m sure that started with Fate for me.

    I also thought it was interesting that we were all trying to figure out what Alan’s green energy smelled like, because Fate #11 answers that question. Jared gets hit with a blast of green energy and narrates, “The smell of ozone convinces me I’m awake for real this time,” as Alan Scott phases through the wall.

    One last thing: there was talk about rereading the Hugo Danner and Iron Munro stories in Gladiator, Young All-Stars, and Damage. I’d add Marc Andreyko’s Manhunter to that reading list. I think Iron Munro’s story and legacy are nicely expanded on in that series.

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    1. Oh I forgot the Grundy vs Grunday debate. I live in the Philadelphia area and so many people pronounce the days of the week like Sundee, Mondee, Tuesdee, etc., that the forced rhyme always went the opposite direction of yours. The days of the week conformed to the rhyme instead of the character name.

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  5. Let’s start with Grundy vs Grunday. Dude, it’s Grundy.
    I bought the entire Fate series waiting for it to get good. It never grew on me. Too XTREME for me.
    As for the Dr. Fate issue you covered, I read comics for escapism. I’ve always hated when a character gets political whether I agree with them or not. Case in point, I still hate John Stewart for the Apartheid issue, and anyone with more than a single digit IQ agreed with that one.

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    1. I forgot to comment on the Grundy/Grunday controversy when I commented, earlier (Thanks, Brett, for the reminder).

      I wonder if the “Grunday” pronunciation (specifically because it is supposed to rhyme with “Monday”) can be traced to the fact that the poem would have been initially understood with a rather different accent than we likely hear it in today (I hesitate to say “British,” or “English,” per se, despite the poem’s origins, because there’s linguistic evidence to suggest that spoken-British of centuries past might have sounded more like a Southern accent today… and I’m not even getting into the versions of Solomon Grundy that depict him with a Southern accent!), whereby “Monday” itself might have been pronounced more like “Grundy” than how most of us pronounce the word today?

      For an unrelated example, some of you know that I’m a fan of game shows, and that I especially enjoy shows from across the pond. One example is “House of Games” (formerly hosted by Richard Osman), which has a segment called “Rhyme Time” in which the rhymes, following British English as one might expect, often include words that we in America tend NOT to think of as rhyming. For example, “Argentina” vs. “Vacuum Cleaner”

      For the record, I think “Grunday” is just wrong. It’s Grundy (pronounced “Grun-dee”).

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  6. My first exposure to Jared Stevens was, oddly enough, his death in JSA # 1. I knew of Jared as Fate when his series came out, but I stayed away from it as it had that grim and gritty 90’s extreme aesthetic because it wasn’t my cup of tea. I guess they all can’t be Starman.

    The thing is, Fate could’ve worked in a number of ways if they dropped that nineties extreme aesthetic and went in a different direction: First, they could’ve leaned into Jared days as a smuggler and have him be a pulp-y, treasure hunting character, kind of like a Nathan Drake from the Uncharted games but with these magical artifacts. Second, this could’ve easily been something in the Elseworlds annuals or an Elseworlds one-shot; a different way of looking at a familiar character. Third, if they insisted on keeping all the elements of this series, they could’ve gone further and made this a Vertigo book in the vein of something like The Scarab, or skirted the line between Vertigo and DC with something like Starman or The Spectre.

    When I see stuff with Jared, I see a lot of potential that didn’t get realized because of the time he debuted. The idea wasn’t terrible, but the execution was.

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    1. Didn’t Scarab start as a pitch for a revamped Dr Fate series? Has he been seen since the opening run of JSA in which – of course – Geoff Johns kills Jared Stevens to add drama to his launch?

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  7. I’m another one who read the #0 issue of the Nineties Fate series and didn’t bother going into the regular monthly, it just seemed such an Extreeeeeeeme cliche, even as early as 1994. I did read the issue under discussion here, and wasn’t impressed, but was a little amused. Poor Alan, he was done as much of a disservice as Kent and Inza.

    That said, your discussion, Shag and John, opened my eyes to the potential of Jared, and he certainly didn’t deserve to be thrown away by Geoff Johns… has he returned yet, he’s long overdue.

    I wonder if Jared was named ‘Stevens’ as a nod to Bewitched… sorry Shag, you must think I’m obsessed!

    Thanks so much for the shout-out re: Inza, and cheers for a terrific, wide-ranging discussion of Bill Loebs’ secretly seminal series. I reckon the FW Podcasts Manifestation Momentum starts here and we’ll have an Inza collection within the year.

    I do hate that DC treats Kent and Inza so badly, constantly killing them, ageing them… they’ve earned a spot in DC’s retired superhero suburbia, they could be advisors to younger heroes in the same way Joan and Jay were to Wally.

    Excellent issue pick, Shagg, I loved rereading this for the podcast; I’d have liked the regular subplots to be left to one side for more of the Washington business, with the government agent’s visit kept for the end. The art by Peter Gross, coloured by Lovern Kindzierski, is so good.

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  8. Fun discussion gents. I’ve long been on record that DC was building up anticipation for a Dr. Fate solo book WITH Kent and Inza…then pulled the rug right out from under the fans when they put them out to pasture the first time. I subscribed to that Fate ongoing for a year (got the poster promised in the ad and everything), but it was a bit too quirky for young teenage me. Not what I was looking for. And because of that, I never gave the series another try. Maybe I need to rectify that.

    Fate looked awful from the word jump, and now hearing you guys talk about it, it sounds like a bad version of Robinson’s and Harris’ Starman, launched at the exact same time. Reluctant, edgy legacy hero (who’s also an antiques dealer) taking on the mantle of a JSA member, getting pulled further and further into a world he wants nothing to do with. But Starman was a masterpiece, and this…not so much. I remember being actually happy when he showed up dead in JSA #1. It was like the creators of that book gave the fans what they wanted. “Oh, THAT guy? He’s dead. Look”. Convoluted backstory aside, I really liked Hector Hall as Fate, and barring a true return of Kent, I wish they’d just left him in the role.

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  9. Hello,

    Big Doctor Fate fan here, so I have a lot to say I guess. I first really started reading Dr. Fate when I saw he was going to be in the new “Justice League” book post Crisis. Before that I only saw him here and there in my dad’s pre-Crisis books in the JLA/JSA crossovers. I always liked the concept that of how Dr. Fate is a combination of both this super powerful god like entity and a normal human. Sort of the same reason I like The Spectre. Then later when Dr. Fate became two humans combined etc… was also a neat concept. The DeMatteis book was great and really did have the ability to make a person think about deeper things.

    As for the books discussed in this podcast. Inza being Dr. Fate was a really cool concept and something I really love to see. I love seeing writers showing characters with large amounts of powers actually fix street level issues. It is sort of the problem I have with Marvel comics sometimes if I think about it too hard, why does New York have any crime at all when almost all of their super heroes live their. The current Flash run is doing something similar, Wally is using his speed to prevent crimes everywhere all at once. Super heroes fixing base level society issues that contribute to over all crime is a concept I would love to see more explored, not in a negative way but in a positive way.

    Anyways, back to Dr. Fate…. As I mentioned I loved what Inza did as Dr. Fate, now as for Jared Stevens. I didn’t read it till after I saw him die in JSA #1. Seriously I was like oh yea that guy happened. So I went back and read it. It wasn’t what I was expecting and I also questioned the canonicity of “Book of Fate”. I don’t think both books fit well enough together without some sort of in universe explanation. I also disliked how Alan Scott acts in the Jared books. He is so out of character. I know later on in much later Justice Society books it is mentioned that the Starheart has influence of Alan’s behavior and even corrupts him if I remember right at some point, so the only like head canon justification I can give for Alan’s behavior is that the Starheart doesn’t like Jared because Jared is anti-magic and is influencing Alan Scott some how. I know that isn’t said in the book but yea I can’t stand how Alan is written in the Jared books. I also thought the writers of Jared were trying to make him be a super 90’s “extreme” version of John Constantine. Street level magic user in a trench coat solving problems that find their way into his life.

    I agree that some things with Jared are really neat. The computer that becomes enchanted is awesome. Heck, that could have made the book go into a mystical sci-fi type setting, almost sounds like a Shadowrun type thing. Also having a guy in the chair is a cool concept for someone like Fate. Magic users or characters that deal in the magical realm don’t usually have a guy in the chair that has to look things up. I also don’t hate the idea of a street level magic character trying to fix larger magical problems. Lots of neat concepts wasted.

    I do have a fix for Jared Stevens. Jared could be an adventurer, like a modern day Indiana Jones type character. Maybe an archeologist even. Jared finds Nabu’s artifacts and what not and then he becomes Fate. The rest of the book could be him going off and discovering other artifacts, maybe even do a storyarc that is an artifact hunt against some evil people. The main villain could be Felix Faust wanting to acquire artifacts because magic is all broken due to some imbalances with the Lords of Order and Chaos. This could act as a call to action for Jared to find the artifacts first because Faust is evil while trying to keep balance between Order and Chaos. Maybe the book would end with Jared being forced into letting Faust win to balance the scales or something.

    Sorry this post is a little all over the place, but I am having a trouble focusing today and somewhat dizzy today (I have chronic conditions, this really isn’t the place to go into details).

    Keep up the great work,

    Dustin

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  10. First off, I rescind my previous Booing from last month. My frustration was that just as the title had built up the excitement Shag decided to run another Spotlight episode instead of us reaching the conclusion of the mini series. I enjoy the spotlights I really do but in this case I worried the momentum was being slowed.

    HOWEVER I wouldnt have had that fear or my Booing reaction had Shag told us it was going to be Dr Fate / Jared Stevens being covered or had told us Jon Wilson was the guest… Either one of those would have sold me but BOTH? It’s like an early Christmas. So really the booing is technically Shag’s fault. I recant my booing and offer instead cheering for Jon appearing. Or should that be cerring as Jon likes to remind folks there is no H in jon or other words associated with him.

    Anyway to the episode at hand…. I knew next to nothing about Jared Stevens other than he felt like DC were looking for a mystical version of Cable from Xforce. And your coverage has made me curious to go back and read some of that series. I did always wonder about the whole melting down of the Helmet of Nabu into a knife I seem to recall it just mystically reformed afterwards. I suppose we are fortunate it wasn’t made into a gun. But the concept of the Helmet changing shape does appeal.

    Which brings me to the other half of this Dr Fate deeper dive. I always thought Dr Fate was a book which was close to that DCU to Vertigo transition in the same way Animal Man and Doom Patrol got there. So it certainly doesn’t seem out of place to have a more mature discussion about politics and magic just odd it’s in the DCU world. This period too is one I need to go back and re read as issues of Dr Fate were few and far between on the newsagents shelves. And I hadn’t been convinced at the time to add the book to my mail order.

    Surprised to learn that Jon had time to read all those comic issues when he’s got so many other projects on the go. But I am glad he did because I think that makes him the Expert on Dr Fate between the two of you. Considering Shag can’t even pronounce Solomon Grundy having someone on the show who knows the subject is a great thing. Fingers Crossed Jon will return.

    This was a great episode and touched on a load of Dr Fate stories which will be new to me when I get to read them. However I did wonder if Jon was asked on as the books in question this month are close to 30 years ago and he and Blaine have a particular set of skills for stories produced 30 years ago.

    While I am here are those Flash Back Ups for Dr Fate available anywhere to read ? Same goes for Huntress in Wonder Woman?

    Anyway I digress, thanks for a great show Jon and Shag… Now let’s get to the end of the mini series 🙂

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    1. Doug, the only place i am aware those Flash backups were reprinted was in the 1984 (Baxter paper!) miniseries The Immortal Doctor Fate issues 2 and 3. I highly recommend all three issues – as the first comic reprints Doctor Fate’s 1st Issue Special #9 tale by Martin Pasko and Walt Simonson. And it also contains the 8-page Doctor fate origin story by Paul Levitz and Joe Staton from 1978’s DC Special Series #10

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    2. And you can get a big wodge of early Huntress stories in the trade Huntress: Darknight Daughter, reprinted many years later as Huntress: Origins.

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      1. I affirm that Huntress: Darknight Daughter/Origins is well worth the time to pick up and read. I only wish they’d go ahead with the rest of Helena Wayne’s pre-Crisis stuff. Surely there can’t be so much left unrepublished that it’s difficult to do!

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  11. Impressive podcast most impressive. The cover is pretty well done. Not the version of Dr. fate I was expecting still. This looks like a cool run on the book that I missed and I always liked BML.

    Irony that the Jaguar comic was also written by him as well as an underrated wonder woman run. The artwork is pretty well done. And yeah, that’s kind of an interesting day on a super hero . The speech she gave before she turned everyone into a newt was kind of cool.

    The transformation scene where the mask replaces her face and she’s in costume just by magic was kind of cool. And seeing her deal with the worst thing that ever happened to Hawk, I realized they didn’t wanna make monarch into Captain Adam as originally planned because everyone figured it out

    But destroying hawk when Hawking was still a pretty good series I always liked that version of Hawk and Dove, and then they had to in my opinion fridge dove. Still it’s good to see Dr. Faith within the whole DC universe.

    Long onto the other fate. Not the biggest fan of this character. Little bit too much of the edge Lord thing still they did do what they could with this character to make him work. good enough artwork and I do like seeing this guy have this standoff with green lantern of all people

    Still I’m glad they went back with the classic version of Doctor Fate. Weird though with a really good vertigo books going on at the time that had to do with magic and instead of doing something like that with Doctor fate they decide to make this guy instead is what it is.

    Sad to see the way they passed, but, I am glad that the silver scare I’ve got to become Dr. fate. Not pleased with the way he went out either, but at least it fixed him from what happened when he was a silver scarce. Can’t wait till the next episode.

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  12. I hate to admit but I am the guy who stopped the podcast at 55 minutes when you two shifted gears to Jared Stevens. But only because I enjoyed your discussion about Doctor Fate so much that I was motivated to go dig out and read two of my favorite miniseries: The Immortal Doctor Fate #1-3 (1984 Baxter paper reprints) and the DeMatteis-Giffen mini Dr. Fate #1-4 (1987). After a couple hours I came back and finished up my listen, and I’m glad I did. While I won’t be rushing out to get any Fate or Book of Fate issues, I have a better appreciation of the character, plus I got to hear Shag mention Video Jack – a personal favorite of mine, even if it is mostly for the art.

    You’ll both be happy to know though, that after I put back the 80’s Doctor Fate minis, I pulled all 41 issues of the 90’s series out (and the Annual) to start on this weekend. I had been picking the series up for years and years in bargain bins and finished it back in 2022, but I haven’t read them all yet. Time to rectify that – thanks in no small part to the two of you and this podcast. See you next epsidoe!!

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  13. A little late to this episode, but it was quite entertaining. I like the OG Doctor Fate Kent Nelson (the costume is just SO cool) , don’t mind Hector Hall in the role (even though I prefer him as Silver Scarab), and am also a fan of Khalid in the helmet. I’m not familiar with Jared Stevens or either of the female Doctors Fate. I do have an interest in checking out the Inza Nelson version of the character since I am a big fan of William Messner-Loebs’ sometimes overlooked Flash run from around that same time.

    All of my experience w/ this character comes from his appearance in the JSA stories and All-Star Squadron.

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  14. I collected the Dr Fate series back in the day, including the Inza arc, and enjoyed it a lot. I’m overdue for a re-read.

    And I will admit, I’m tempted to give Fate a try. The #0 issue didn’t do a good job enticing me, but I’ll read comics on the app for curiosity’s sake plenty of times. But boy, the artwork from the gallery is making this a hard sell all over again. Not saying “no,” but definitely “not yet.”

    Still, excellent conversation, guys!

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  15. I think I’ve read one dr fate book .
    I guess I’ll have to keep a eye out for the others
    And check those others series .
    The comic was one of the ones where. Doc fate had half helmet and was making jokes and fighting like Robin .

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  16. The story as I remember it was that William Messner-Loebs was tapped to replace George Perez as writer on Wonder Woman based on his work on the !mpact Jaguar series, but maybe Doctor Fate was also in that equation? It was through Messner-Loebs’ work that I developed my passion for the Amazing Amazon, which carried me through collecting the entire second volume… unfortunately. That was a rough dozen years or so after he left. I had liked The Jaguar when I bothered to read it, but most everything else I tried by Messner-Loebs didn’t pan out. And yet, the humanist streak noted of his Doctor Fate run is very much what I responded to in his Wonder Woman work. However, Dr. Fate is a concept that struggles under the best of circumstances. What I have read of that volume did nothing for me– I tossed through the recent DeMatteis/McManus omnibus and it honestly turned me right off. Ironically, I like Dr. Strange when he’s more human and fallible, and I like Dr. Fate when he’s more inhuman and inscrutable. The thing where ya’ll pointed out that the Fate “girdle” is a good fit for a female is part of why I dislike a woman in that role. Artists tend to play up the “corset” quality, and the curves makes Fate feel more like a person in a costume than an unearthly entity. I want Dr. Fate to scare me a little bit, and a woman in the suit just doesn’t do that for me. And on the visual front… it wasn’t a very good looking book, was it? I mean, the early Vince Giarrano is loads more palatable than what he became, and Peter Gross is doing a pretty decent proto-Vertigo thing, but Scott Eaton clearly isn’t there yet. None of it is eye candy, and a book that’s working doesn’t end at #41. So, maybe someday, but it’s a long list and an ever-shortening life.

    Like a lot of the folks commenting here, I read Fate #0, and like the doctor, I also was swiftly out. Man, that’s a bad book, though not as bad as Vince Giarrano’s Manhunter #0. I’ve never read anything by John Francis Moore worth the bother, and I’m not the biggest Anthony Williams fan, plus everything but the eye ankh in the design was lame. I started pulling issues out of quarter bins around the millennium for the Alan Scott appearances, and stumbled upon a book that got a lot better after that rough start. The biggest shot Len Kaminski was ever given in comics was the launch of the Morbius series as part of “Rise of the Midnight Sons,” and frankly, he blew that almost as bad as Moore’s Fate. However, almost everything else I read by him was much better, and I don’t think he got the comics career that he deserved. He came out swinging with The Conclave, and I think the series has a really unique take on a comic book magical sphere. It manages to be very ’90s, yet still enjoyable with that era long in the rearview. I can’t honestly say that I ever developed any affection for Jared Stevens as a character, but the circles he moved in were intriguing.

    I was weirdly committed to Keith Giffen in the late ’90s, a period when he could seemingly do no right. They allowed him to relaunch The Book of Fate, and despite telling anyone who would listen how much he hated Lobo, Giff kept writing all of his characters like The Main Man. It was exhausting and irritating. Do you appreciate how much it pains me to say Giffen couldn’t script for himself as well as Alan Grant could? Never a winner in the design department, Fate just got more drab in street clothes with his eye in the ankh-hole. I’m definitely less a fan of Ron Wagner, the artist on Kaminski’s failed Morbius, than where Anthony Williams was by the end of the last run (recalling John McCrea more than, again, friggin’ Vince Giarrano.) And yet, I stuck through Book of Fate for its miserable dozen issues, a title that somehow seemed to hate itself even more than its reluctant readers.

    I honestly think killing Jared Stevens as part of the JSA launch was the right call. Folks cheered when he was felled by his own dagger, and it helped establish the threat that would unite a new team. I just wish more of the good material that bubbled up in the Fate book had made it out of the title’s demise. The creative team moved on to Scare Tactics, which seemed a more complete failure despite a greater attempt by DC to salvage the project. Nobody was clamoring for all those Plus one-shots, and its sort of Scooby Gang meets Josie & the Pussycats felt out of its own time.

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  17. I never made the connection between the Scare Tactics manager Arnold Burnsteel and any character in the pages of FATE, as I was definitely out on that series after issue 0. However, I can point out that the writer AND artist of Scare Tactics were the exact same creative team as the creative team on FATE: Len Kaminski, Anthony Williams, and Andy Lanning. It might not be obvious at a glance because Williams worked in a very different style for the latter book. I was hesitant to give Scare Tactics a try because the two men were responsible for FATE, but I checked it out mostly due to how much I liked some of Kaminski’s Marvel work: Slapstick, Morbius, and the criminally underrated Ghost Rider 2099.

    Williams was several years deep in his professional career by the time he drew FATE. He changed up his art quite a bit for the series, a process he started on his short-lived Marvel Razorline book Hokum & Hex just a few months before. I’m fairly certain that he’s still active in the United Kingdom on various titles from Rebellion, as some of his earliest work and much of his later work was on 2000 A.D.

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