Season 7, Episode 9: Baby, It’s Cold Outside
Special Guest Star: Remy Skyfire
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Rob, I’m listening while I pick up sticks in the backyard as part of hurricane cleanup, so I’m only partway through this. As often happens, I have to make some comments before I forget. First, let me second your expressions of condolence and regret over what Remy and her wife went through. That’s awful. Second, despite Remy’s sound logic for why she’d rather be cold than hot — which I’ve heard others express — I’m with you. Third, military gloves are NOT one size fits all. For example, I know I’m a large, or if we’re getting really fancy with the sizing, an eleven. The work we do with our hands (flipping weapons off safety, manipulating maintenance tools, etc.) requires too much fine motor dexterity for one-size-fits-all gives, even the stretchy ones. I now return you to your regularly scheduled episode (which is going great, of course). Carry on, Iron Guts. (Wow! “Gutsy” thing for a captain to say to a general, aniright?)
Continuing commentary:
The Army can have people sleep in the cold because it issues long underwear, down sleeping bags, and wool blankets. Honestly, the amount of research and development that goes into the long underwear is surprising. I got better sets every time I deployed. Of course, my brother has most of them now, because Florida.
Silence in the theater: I think, to add some sauce onto your points, Charles knows how to behave because of live theater and the orchestra, he just doesn’t in the mess tent theater because a) this isn’t real culture, and b) he’s entitled.
How did the Army get all those red pumps? Because the Army, even in the 1950s, had more layers than most people imagine, Rob. Nah, that’s not it. It was a mistake at the supplier — either a shoe factory that makes or a warehouse that stores both kinds of footwear. And a lack of quality control by some Army supply personnel propagated the error. So it’s unlikely, it’s surreal, but it isn’t implausible.
I hope you are safe from the hurricane, Captain, I’ve seen on the news that it’s really bad in some places!
I’m in the middle of listening but I had to make a comment already. I think, as a bonus episode after this season, Iron Guys Kelly should create a curated list of the best M*A*S*H episodes for a newbie to the show. Perhaps a list of ten episodes. What a great idea from Remy!
The early scene of the supplies delivery was shot outdoors at Malibu Creek. As this episode aired in November, I’m guessing it was probably shot in August or so, and I’m just visualizing all of the actors bundled up for winter and pretending to shiver in what was probably 90 degree heat!
As a heterosexual male resident of the area of the country (and likely the same state) your guest had to flee from, I hate she and her wife had to go through this. I don’t know if she reads this but I hope she knows that not all of us here are like that.
Interesting she is a big BJ fan but he had a very limited role in this episode.
Good point on Margaret and BJ just being friends. When she was drunk in a recent episode and made suggestive comments his way, he quickly backed off and didn’t even playfully respond.
Didn’t get why everyone jumped Radar’s case about taking the stoves. It wasn’t his fault. For that matter, can you really see him moving all the stoves around? Seems like more of a job for Zale.
Loved BJ’s line about digging up a coffin. But would it really be a surprise they had one? What do they put the 2% unsuccessful people in?
On her comment about anesthesia. They make it look like something anyone could do with very little training. I was surprised to learn it is something very specialized by a doctor with a great deal of training.
I didn’t get why they were mad at Charles. If they want a fancy jacket, order one.
Even more comments!
– Another reason the U.S. military can put people out in the cold is that irrespective of its various stances on same-sex romance, cuddling to fight hypothermia has always been authorized.
– I think Remy’s take on BJ’s faith indicators are fascinating. I have an Army veteran friend whose faith in God took a hit in Iraq, because of how much of man’s inhumanity to man he saw. I also heard a Vietnam-era prisoner of war say that faith was critical to getting them through — whether it was faith in God, or their country, or their family, or their fellow prisoners, they had to have faith in something. I myself lost faith in a lot of things – rightly so — but faith in God and other people carried me through.
– Respect and solidarity to Remy as another person of many names!
Another excellent episode with a fellow imprinted-on-BJ-like-a-baby-duck mash watcher…. Remy youre so so real for that. What a wonderful in-depth fun fact filled discussion, loved everything said about Margaret especially and her compassion showing in this episode and her push and pull between masculinity and femininity over the series like i was nodding so much my neck started hurting. And I loved hearing that analysis of BJ and faith as well, what an excellent eye for beejtail (beej detail) that shows.
Also have to agree with Remy even more as someone who grew up directly on the equator – being cold means you can always add more layers but being too hot, eventually youre out of options!! Cold cold cold all the way for me!!!
This was a great episode, loved all the insights! I think I’ve seen your pen name over at Archive of our own, Remy, I’m Huldra09 over there, nice to “meet” you!
It’s quite funny, I am right now planning my next fic, it’s gonna be set in the last season and we’re gonna dig into Margaret’s mind a lot, her thoughts on her life as it is, who she is and who she wants to be, what she’s going to do after the war. And I have a scene planned for her and the nurses – lord knows we needed more of those on the show – and it’s gonna have some elements of what you were talking about here. Maybe no gag, but we’ll see… 🙂
I also wanna say that I’m sorry to hear that you and your wife went through such hard times.
The podcast episodes have really been perfectly timed for me this season, when I listened to “None like it hot” we were in the middle of a unseasonable and unreasonable heat wave, and today, before I listened to this episode, was the first day of the season when I had to scrape the ice of my car! Wearing flimsy mittens, actually, because even though I know cold season happens every year, I am always oddly unprepared for it… So, there I was, scraping the super mean ice off my car, freezing my poor hand off in the process, while I glanced jealously at the warm, cozy cars going by that had obviously spent their night in a nice, comfy garage… Owned by those Winchester-types, just so warm and nice and high and mighty… 🙂
But still – I am team too cold instead of too hot! Born of ice and darkness, baby! I can always put on another sweater, but taking clothes off in the heat somehow only makes it worse, and eventually you are down to your skin and that doesn’t come off. I’m sure I would have felt differently, though, if I had to spent my days and nights in flimsy tents, and not in a nice apartment with sturdy walls. (Sturdy! 🙂 )
I think BJ as a character is really interesting, and I have come to enjoy him more and more, the more I watch the show. It’s interesting how he starts off as this clean shaved young man, who doesn’t want to be in Korea of course, but still tries to have a more optimistic outlook on things. I really like how in his early episodes he tries to reason with Frank, for example, while Hawkeye is just over it and knows that it’s a mission impossible. And then we get so see BJ turn angrier, more bitter and disillusioned. This “funny guy” who can really be quite cruel, had his pranks been played out by someone who didn’t have red suspenders, a goofy mustache and a big smile, I think they would have been percieved quite differently. I love good characters arcs, to see wants and needs, to see characters go about what they want,and I think his arc works really well.
Rent, I’d like to offer my condolences as well for having to go through the experience of being unsafe where you live. It’s absolutely terrible that happened to you and your wife.
Please, please, please write that Margret and her nurses story. Then send it to Rob.
Rob, please encourage Remy to write that story and then turn it into an audio drama for a special episode of MASHcast!
I will never understand people who ridicule others because they thimk others’ love doesn’t match what they think love is. As England Dan and John Ford Colwy said “Love is the Answer”
When a MASH episode with a winter theme is stripped during the summer, my wife always says “Lucky bucs!” Especially this year when we here in Vegas had an all time temp of 120 degrees.
Great show, Rob. Remy was a fantastic guest, especially for a first-timer. First let me say whatever animals were making Remy and her wife feel unsafe can feel free to walk into a chopper blade. I’m glad they are both safe and happy in their new home. I’m always impressed how well MASH sold being cold when they’re filming in California. Not just the actors, but the whole look and feel to the episode. And Winchester should not only wear that coat, but hold up a a sign saying “I’M WARM” for all the haters. Is he supposed to keep it in his footlocker, you 4077 babies? When Hawkeye starts singing “Heat Wave,” I immediately think “It’s a Wallace and Davis production!” White Christmas lives in my head all year.