THE FANTASTIC POUR
Brett Young welcomes Ed Buzzi, friend of the pod, to the Fantasti-Lounge to knock down some Moscow Mules and read Star Wars #1 thru #6. Join us in the Fantasti-Lounge as we discuss why Ed has never seen any Star Wars movie, falling asleep with wine, why Chewbacca is not a pet, Connecticut, and much, much more!
Secret Pour-igins: The Moscow Mule
Cocktail: R.I.P. Biggs
Ingredients (per drink):
- 2 ounces vodka
- 1/2 ounce lime juice, freshly squeezed
- 3 ounces ginger beer, chilled
- Copper cup
Garnish:
- Lime wheel
Instructions
- Fill a Moscow Mule copper cup (or highball glass) with ice, then add the vodka and lime juice
- Top with the ginger beer
- Garnish with a lime wheel
- May the Force be with You
Comic: Star Wars #1 – 6, Marvel Comics, 1977
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Great episode! I like hearing Star Wars from the viewpoint of someone never seeing the movie and just read the comics. All valid points – what was the big farming for Luke? what “crops” was he working on? Was Chewbacca Han Solo’s pet? I clearly remember thinking that as a kid on the story. Like why was Chewbacca with Han Solo? They never built out the characters or much of a setting. The writing was very much like science fiction at that time (late 1960’s early 1970’s) to be right in the story, no explanation, this is the world. Phillip K. Dick always did that with his writing. Blade Runner – same lack of back story and setup. Of course then the star wars prequels, sequel, one-shot films, books built all that out.
Thanks, Lucien! I’m pretty sure I thought Chewie was Han’s pet when I was little, too.
This was an amazing episode! Break it to Ed gently about JFK.
Thanks, Rob. ED fortunately already knew about JFK. He’s not THAT old, he just acts like it.
This was a joy; one of the best podcasts I’ve heard in ages. Ed is a complete delight and it was so refreshing / entertaining to hear someone come completely fresh to a franchise that is so familiar to the geek community.
It speaks so much about the friendship between Brett and Ed that Ed would agree to do his first ever podcast recording without really knowing what the show is about, and on a topic he’s not really interested in! We could all do with more friends who unquestioningly have our backs like that!
Fire & Water should sign these two up immediately for a show where we hear Brett explain all sorts of genre stuff, and Ed’s reaction.
Can’t wait for the “Empire Strikes Back” follow up show!
PS The actor who played the physique of Darth Vader was called Dave Prowse. He was a tall bodybuilder who was also famous in the UK for playing a much more benign superhero called the Green Cross Code Man, teaching kids about road safety in Public Service Announcements.
Dave came from the city of Bristol (very close to where I now live), and Bristol has a very strong and distinctive accent – let’s just say it’s not exactly how you’d expect a galaxy conquering villain to sound, so he was dubbed over for both Vader and the Green Cross Code Man roles.
Yes! Dave Prowse! I could not remember his name to save my life during recording. Thank you for the kind words on the episode, Chris, I’m glad you enjoyed it!
Brett, your podcast is fantastic. Of course this one is my favorite because it has two awesome guys, or maybe three… I laughed out loud many times. I’m glad Ed chose not to blow up Connecticut, our mom, brother, sister and I live there, as well as many other relatives. Fun fact, it may be a Buzzi thing, but I never watched the movie “The Titanic” and never will!
I also heard that your weekly coffee visits with Ed are much like your banter here…. Maybe a spin-off??? Coffee with Ed and Brett… just a thought! Keep up the great work! Cheers!
This! What Ed’s sister said!
Thank you, Brenda! I didn’t think he’d blow up CT, but you never know until you test those loyalties. I’m sure I’ll have your brother back in some fashion down the line.
A riot. I am only about halfway through and had to pipe in a few things. “Oh, Harrison Ford was in Star Wars?” reminded me of a time years ago when my wife was telling me a story and was struggling to remember Harrison Ford’s name. Her comment was “You know, the guy from Regarding Henry?” and I have never let her forget it. She has also struggled with the reading conventions of comic books on the rare occasion she has tried one. It is definitely an acquired skill that we learned when we were kids and just comes naturally now. Reading on the iPad with the guided view does help that I would imagine.
Great show as always and Ed was a natural. Will listen to the rest tomorrow but I had to get those thoughts out while fresh (I am not young enough to have served on the “Millennial Falcon” and so I forget things).
Thanks, Paul. I’m pretty sure the Millennial Falcon is the ship all the boomers complain about.
Fun episode! I was just at Galaxy’s Edge (Star Wars Land at Disney’s Hollywood Studios) for the first time, and I find it fascinating to think of someone being in that world and having no context for it. But I didn’t know the Harry Potter universe that well when we first visited Universal parks in Orlando years ago, although my wife and kids did. I hadn’t yet seen all the films in the series. So maybe it’s not that different.
Thanks, Chris. Yeah, he had no idea what he was looking at!
Good episode bring Ed back but I say let’s not just bring him back for movie Star Wars stuff . Let’s have him some of Lando’s solo adventures with chewi . I big fan of Lando . Also let’s have him read some house of mystery both dail h for hero and Elvira version as well as classic . Also how about having Ed’s bro on to cover a Rick jones captian Marvel comic since Rick was folk singer at that time.
The marvel Star Wars comics I have read I have two epic collections return of Jedi and blood ties .i got retuned of Jedi cause I wanted to get all of landos classic solo adventures.
And blood ties just sounded cool and it’s an awesome story arc would recommend.
Here’s two fantastic questions for everyone one
1 if there was Star Wars style team sears done like the old marvel team which Star Wars character would like to see team up with which marvel character and who would like to see them fight ?
A. For me it’s Lando and Gambit in murder world . So vs arcade can they win or will arcade finally kill a x-men and is Lando just a bonus .
2. Can any remember if Lando had go to drink in the Star Wars movies cause I can’t remember?
Everyone, Lando is to Michael Bailey (Shag’s former podcasting partner) as Rob Kelly is to Han Solo. Shag is Chewbacca. Discuss.
Thanks, Bucky. Wow, that’s a lot to take in. I’ll try to come up with an answer during feedback
Very interesting episode. I’m always happy when someone new discovers the original Star Wars. I did come away with one question, though. Did Ed actually read the comic? This interaction happens multiple times in the episode:
Ed – I don’t understand X.
Brett – It was spelled out in the comic.
Ed – It was?
Thanks, Gene. I think it was a factor of Ed trying to ingest a new medium (for him) over six issues. He’s not gonna retain it all.
Your friend’s condescension towards SW fans, and genre fans in general, is palpable.
I believe it’s spelled “Palpatine”.
Thanks for listening, Roger. I would say that’s more a factor of Ed and I having known each other for over 20 years and wanting to give me a hard time. And some of it is the way things come out during a fun conversation. Ed was a good sport reading his first comic books in a genre he’s not familiar with and then do his first ever podcast discussing it. We wanted the conversation to be honest, fun, and hopefully entertaining. I welcome all feedback and understand not everyone is going to see/hear things the same way. I appreciate you listening and hope you continue to do so!
Brett and Ed,
Great episode! You had me rolling. “This is the 70s – you throw it all in there” (about Luke and Leia being brother and sister) killed me. Thank you for a hilarious peek into your friendship and a reminder that the sacred texts we all love are also silly and fun when looked at from a different angle.
This was laugh out loud funny listening to someone’s eyes get opened about Star Wars, things we think are basically universally known truths!
“You know Leia ends up being his sister.”
“WHAAAATTT”
I almost drove off the road!
I am a Chaykin guy and he has such contempt over his Star Wars stuff, mostly because he thinks (knows?) that this is the work he is most widely known for. It is rough, before he became more polished for sure.
Thanks, Anj! I’ll have to read more about Chaykin’s reaction to Star Wars. See you for JSApril!
Man, what an interesting episode. Like many others, I found it fascinating that my fellow Ed (we even have the same initials!) is so unfamiliar with Star Wars and other pop culture stuff – although, as an American living outside of the US since the early 1990s, I should note that on a global scale, being unfamiliar or only vaguely familiar with Star Wars is not that unusual at all. What I found truly intriguing is an American inside our general age group who not only had never seen any of the SW movies but also didn’t even know where you could find comic books back in the day. I mean, even back then, I recall that the kids who didn’t read comics were still familiar with them and knew you get them in most grocery, convenience or drug stores, etc.
Just one other thing that I have to address: as an unashamed fan of that monument to cocaine, the Star Wars Holiday Special, I take exception to the view that it is unwatchable. Bit your tongue! I’d rather watch it in its entirety than, say, any of the prequels. (And to me, it’s canon, and no one can convince me otherwise…)
But that aside, I really enjoyed the conversation. Hats off to both Brett and Ed.
p.s. love the song by Andy.
Thanks, Edo! You Eds have to stick together. I’ll let Andy know you enjoyed the tune.
Ed and Edo and ed’s I just got a flash back to Edd Ed and eddy I wonder if there is jaw breaker flavored mock tail ?
This was terrific, Brett. I mean, nothing tops the combo of a spicy margarita and Nightwing, but no one would expect anything to, so this is still really great. On that note, I did not expect you to refer to me as “equally spicy.” My wife said to tell you she agrees, but I suspect she’s the only one.
Regarding the episode I’m supposed to be talking about, the conversation with Ed was a delight. Furthermore, I think his trouble following –or even identifying– the plot highlights a legitimate flaw in the first film. I acknowledge that I was only five when I saw it, but I had no idea what was going on, and there were plenty of other television shows and maybe a couple Disney features where I’d been able to follow the broad strokes. I mean, I could tell who the good guys I was supposed to root for were, just like Ed. I also knew the bad guys were the ones who wore black, had British accents (other than kindly Alec Guinness), and / or intimidated people to get what they wanted. But “empire”? “Rebel alliance”? “Old Republic”? Nonsense words, at the time. And I certainly wasn’t catching any allusions to the Roman Empire or European colonialism. Of course, you can blame all that on my youthful ignorance. My real point is, Lucas launched you into the story — not just in media res, but into the deep end of the pool with a garden hose spraying in your face. It was “show, don’t tell” at a rapid pace. Somebody probably knows, but I’m guessing the long crawl at the beginning was added because test audiences said “That was cool! What the heck was going on?” Even with it, I think many people felt that way, and they went back to see it again a) for the thrilling moments they kind of understood, and b) to figure out the plot they didn’t. Of course, now we’ve all seen it and related stories a hundred times, so it all seems obvious.
Where I will differ with Ed is his reaction to the weirdness of Star Wars. On the speculative fiction scale, I think we’d all agree that Star Wars is pretty tame. There are people on other planets. Some of them are different species and visibly not human. Also in the mix are advanced technology and a vaguely pantheistic religion, which has priests with laser swords. Doesn’t that cover it? I think there might be weirder things we’ve discovered in the real world since 1977. His whole reaction reminds me of something my daughter in Central Europe told me about. Whenever she or another North American tries to feed the locals food with a little spicy heat — say, a properly seasoned pizza, or some relatively mild Mexican food — the locals’ mouths catch fire, and the North Americans are accused of attempted murder. It really is all what you’re used to.
Anyway, I’ve got some ginger beer, and I’ll be trying an RIP Biggs soon. I can’t wait to hear your JSApril entry and try another cocktail or mocktail! I’m playing along!
Thanks, Cap. You’ve always got a seat at the Fantastic-Lounge
As someone who really doesn’t take Star Wars seriously at all, I thought this was a lot of fun.
Thanks, Siskoid
I loved the sounds of the drink being made live. ASMR inspired!
This episode was a wild ride! I think you should have more guests who have no idea about the source material. And getting a little tipsy while recording. I wonder if the Godfather or any other movies Ed has seen has had comic book adaptations?
The band playing in the lounge is obviously the Cantina band, but between sets is the gang from Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids playing their junkyard instruments whose Gold Key comic (#19) was on sale the same month as Star Wars #1. (Thank you Mike’s Amazing World!)
Gave me the feels of that Gimme That Star Trek cooking episode.
Brett – This was stellar! Ed make an excellent guest, and what a fascinating social experiment (as you described it)! Ed’s modern view of this classic film has me rethinking so much of the franchise! And I don’t think anyone has given this much thought to Chewbacca’s motivations before.
Loved this! Please have Ed back to read EMPIRE STRIKES BACK!!
Another great show, Brett! As I was listening, I was considering your pal Ed’s incapacity for imagination. For us in this comics/cartoons/movies community, we are accepting of things like talking animals, life on other planets, and the defiance of physics in our stories. Ed is different, and it’s kind of refreshing! Perhaps he’d like the BBC radio show “I’ve Never Seen Star Wars.” Unless, he doesn’t believe that England exists. https://fourble.co.uk/podcast/neverseen