Gimme That Star Trek Ep.21: The Hero Bracket

LET'S GET READY TO RUMMMBLLLLLLLLE!!!!!! Gimme That Star Trek pit 64 Trek heroes from across all series in a bracket fight decided by five panelists - Derek William Crabbe, Cory Drew, Fred Melanson, Kurt Onstad, and Siskoid! Their task: Decide each bracketed fight until only one the greatest Star Trek hero of all time (at least, in that moment) stands alone! Who will it be? Grab your bracket sheet HERE to follow along, and may the best hero live longest and prosper!

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"Star Trek Theme" by Alexander Courage, with the Irredeemable Shagg on vocals. End theme: "Deep Space Nine Theme" by Dennis McCarthy.

Bonus clips from: Star Trek's "The Gamesters of Triskelion" featuring Bartell LaRue, Walker Edmiston and Robert Johnson, and "Star Trek Fight Music" by Gerald Fried; "Star Trek III: The Search for Spock", by and starring Leonard Nimoy; "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country", by Nicholas Meyer, starring George Takei and William Shatner; Star Trek: The Next Generation's "The Best of Both Worlds, Part 1", starring Patrick Stewart and Jonathan Frakes; Deep Space Nine's "Business as Usual", starring René Auberjonois and Armin Shimerman, and "Waltz", starring Avery Brooks; Star Trek: Voyager, starring Jeri Ryan; Enterprise's "Broken Bow", starring Jolene Blalock and Scott Bakula; and "Here's to the Losers" by James Darren

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16 responses to “Gimme That Star Trek Ep.21: The Hero Bracket

  1. If Sulu had beaten Kirk in the first round, I would have refused to participate in the next Fire and Water potluck.

    Seriously, I love me some Sulu (and Star Trek VI), but I was hoping to see Kirk advance beyond the first round. But when you put him up against Spock, I knew the actual human being factor of Nimoy vs. Shatner would sway the panel. And it did. I can’t be upset about Spock taking it all, but Kirk is still my hero, and in “real” Trek fiction, he would have figured out some way to beat everyone on this list. He does that before breakfast every day.

    Great show though, and a lot of fun. I regret not filling out a bracket. I kept meaning to ask you about it, because I don’t “sport” despite living deep in NCAA basketball country (near the University of Kentucky and the frequent title champion Wildcats), so brackets just confuse my nerdly mind. Mine would have probably mirrored Rob’s. 😉

    Do the villains next! Khan all the way!!!


    1. When I heard it looking like Sulu was winning, I thought Cindy Franklin had written some big checks to some podcasters…

    2. Full disclosure up front, I have a well-known antipathy against Kirk.

      I honestly can’t understand why everyone else loves him so much. To me, he’s the antithesis of a hero. He is the exemplar of someone constantly rewarded for bad behavior. This is not just someone who knows when a bad rule needs to be broken for the greater good. Rather, he breaks rules often without regard for whether or not it’s the right thing to do, on little basis for whether or not his “gut” tells him to do so. I’m very glad that some of the wider (if non-canonical) Trek fiction occasionally calls him to account for this (I especially cite the DC comics sequel to “The Apple” where Kirk is forced to admit at the end that his actions in the original episode were “very, very wrong.”), since the main canon is so consistently unwilling to do so.

      All that said, it’s really no surprise that he beat Sulu, and I’ve already posted by arguments against that having been the first round pairing (as opposed to some other Original Series pairing like Kirk vs. Chekhov, for example) on Facebook (not that they were well-received there, either).

      1. Ugh. I REALLY wish we could go back and edit these things after they post! Trying to do so in-text before hitting “Post” inevitably leaves errors. I honestly don’t know how most of you do it!

        Where I said that Kirk breaks rules “without regard for whether or not it’s the right thing to do, on little basis for whether or not his “gut” tells him to do so,” I meant to say “without regard for whether or not it’s the right thing to do, on little basis OTHER THAN whether or not his “gut” tells him to do so.

      2. I think he’s fun, but I totally get where you’re coming from re: his story’s moral ambivalence. You’ve probably touched on why I prefer Sisko and DS9 in general.

  2. I cannot argue with the final results, even though Dr. McCoy is by far my own personal favorite Star Trek character. Spock is perhaps one of the greatest and best realized characters in fiction, let along Trek. My favorite from STNG would have to be Picard, but I simply didn’t stick around long enough with any of the other series to date to have an informed choice for favorite. What I remember of the EMH, though, makes him a likely candidate. (I watched a handful of Voyager, sporadic episodes of DS9, and absolutely none of Enterprise or Discovery.)

  3. RIker over Picard in the first round?!? What fresh hell is this?!! I invalidate this entire episode!! The panelists were clearly Mirror Universe doppelgängers!!

    1. Maybe if you’d watched every Star Trek episode ever you could have been a panelists… You have ONE YEAR to brush up before the Villain Bracket!

  4. Interesting. Though I think it should have been more than one episode to build up the suspense. Based on people’s summaries in round one, most of the rest are a foregone conclusion. If you’d changed some panelist in splitting the episode it could have added more drama.

    I can’t say I agree with all the calls (Barkley should have kicked 7of9’s butt), but it was a lot of fun.

  5. I guess I didn’t read the fine print or misunderstood the premise, because I filled out my bracket as if it really was a “fight.” So I of course had Scotty beating McCoy, for instance. Of course, McCoy is the better character. SO…..oops.
    Also, it’s been so long since I saw Voyager that I forgot that EMH was the doctor! I would have picked him (it?) if I had remembered.
    Still, happy that I got the final two right, and picked the eventual winner.
    Live Long and Prosper!

  6. Great episode. All of the discussions and arguments over Trek’s best was quite… fascinating.

    My final two would have been Spock and Data. I sadly underestimate Sisko. Shame on me!

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