Ryan Daly welcomes returning guest Rob Kelly to talk about Marvel's Star Wars Treasury Comics. Also, some new spoiler-y details about Rogue One and Star Wars Rebels season 3 that came out of Star Wars Celebration Europe 2016. Plus, a special guest joins Ryan on the listener feedback section!
- Introduction begins at 0:00:40
- Star Wars Current Events (potential spoilers) begins at 0:02:25
- Treasury Comics Talk begins at 0:11:00
- Galactic Questionnaire with Rob Kelly begins at 0:38:42
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Music: "Star Wars Main Theme" and “End Title” by The Evil Genius Orchestra (with Ryan and Shag).
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So my show followed Angela’s. That makes TWO episodes of GMTSW in a row with almost unbearable sexual tension between guest and host.
I know, right?!
Get a room guys.
Seriously, it’s always fun to hear Rob talk treasury editions. I had a few myself as a kid, including a Spider-Man Team-Up issue that scared the beejeezus out of me. I actually ASKED my mom to throw it away! When you get a super-close-up of Ghost Rider villain The Orb at Treasury-size…YEESH!!!
Nice to hear Angela back so soon. I noticed that she changed your policy on listener feedback rather quickly. Funny how things like that happen, huh?
By the way Ryan, you really need to go out and mow the yard. And the garage door is sticking. Get on that.
Chris
To be fair, guys, I’m the guy that Rob wants in his cockpit.
When you get a super-close-up of Ghost Rider villain The Orb at Treasury-size…
That’s the very treasury I mentioned on the show, MT #18, THE ASTONISHING SPIDER-MAN!
I got that Astonishing Spider-Man treasury the same day I picked up the Star Wars books. The only other treasury comic I have is Best of DC from 1977 with Superman on the cover.
Straight from Rob’s own Treasury Comics.com, I give you, the traumatizing face of…The Orb!!
http://treasurycomics.com/images/gallery/marvel/mt18_biguglyORBface.gif
Brrr!!!
Chris
When is The Orb gonna make it into a Spidey movie?!?
Netflix Ghost Rider series? They could go WAY gruesome there!
Chris
Another great episode! Well done Rob & Angela! Oh, and Ryan too. As usual, interesting discussions and the theme song is still the best part!
While I never owned the Star Wars Treasury editions, I owned the opposite of one – the Return of the Jedi comic book novel. Such a weird item! Size of a small paperback book, but inside were all the comic panels to the RETURN comic adaptation cut-up and pasted to be read page by page.
I got my own STAR WARS movie adaptation comics in a three pack in my local grocery store. Reprints of issues 4-6 were polybagged and sold in a grocery store. Can you imagine that nowadays?!?! Much like Rob’s modern day Target suggestion.
For the Questionnaire 2.0, I think there is really only one sufficient answer for Luke’s first word’s to Rey… “You didn’t happen to find a hand with that, did you?”
Finally, great to hear Angela again! Love her bossing Ryan around! Bwah-ha-ha!
“Dark Lord of the Sith” was the name of one of Darth’s trading cards; that’s where we get the name/concept I think.
I was thinking “Sith” was mentioned in Splinter of the Mind’s Eye but Wikipedia says it was in the Star Wars novelization.
Love the treasury editions! I think my very first one was the one featuring the Fortess of Solitude. I especially loved the (only?) Dick Tracy edition reprinting the Flattop story from WW2. That book started me to becoming a longtime Tracy enthusiast. I never read the SW ones but will track them down now.
The first Marvel Star Wars treasury edition was my original glance at Star Wars. A friend had it and I got to read it. Of course, you were left on a cliffhanger. I later lucked into a warehouse sale, at Heroes Aren’t Hard to Find, in Charlotte, NC and bought a big stack of Treasury Editions, DC and Marvel. I had owned a few; but this was a serious haul. I had never seen so many in one place, and at pretty good prices. I believe that is where I got my Fantastic Four one, that reprinted the first Galactus story. Picture that, Kirby in all of his glory, on those giant pages! My sentimental favorite, though, is still the Legion Collector’s Edition, with the Mike Grell-drawn wedding of Ligthning Lad and Saturn Girl, with that double page ceremony spread. A close second is the Howard the Duck Treasury, with the new Defenders story and reprints of his early stories, leading into the first issue of his own series (with Frank Brunner on the art).
Ryan, it’s relevatory to hear ‘Shazam’ works for you on different podcasts.
Yep!
In regards Howard Chaykin; if your first experience with him had been Ironwolf or Cody Starbuck (via Star*Reach), you would have been saying, “Howard Chaykin? Hell yeah!” Chaykin had done more space opera than any artist of his generation. You also have to remember, Chaykin was working from the script and photo reference and had only seen a rough cut of the movie. Also, Chaykin didn’t originate the pin-up Leia; the Brothers Hildebrand created an image of a sexy Leia, in a variation of the dress she wears at the medal ceremony, used in the movie poster.
The Star Wars comics pick up when Archie Goodwin comes onboard, especially issue 16, with Walt Simonson, where he introduces the bounty hunter Valance. it really picks up around issue 24, where he introduces Baron Tagge, a new villain who hates both the Rebels and Vader.
I can confirm that the scenes at Tosche Station were filmed. I have Star wars: Deleted Magic, which has the cut footage, alternate takes, and behind the scenes footage (from documentary and other sources). Also filmed was a scene, at the beginning, of Luke working on a vaporator and noticing lights in the sky and then seeing it in his macrobinoculars.
Darth Vader is referred to as a Lord of the Sith in the Star Wars novelization and the term was used in Starlog and other publications around Star Wars, including the Star Wars Poster Magazine. In the early drafts, the Sith were supposed to be mercenary knights who work for the Empire, led by Prince Valorum. Darth Vader is the name of an Imperial officer, who is a dishonorable coward. When Valorum sees Vader torturing Deak Starkiller (who is captured by the Empire, instead of a princess), Valorum is angered by his lack of honor and changes sides. The Sith were heavily influenced by the Boskone pirates of EE “Doc” Smith’s Galactic Patrol, from his Lensman series. That novel features the pirates, in space armor, attacking a Galactic Patrol ship, from the void of space. That was how Lucas originally envisioned the Imperial attack and was the reasoning behind the stormtrooper armor and Vader’s armor. Deak is seen in Ralph McQuarrie art in breathing gear, facing Vader.
The lines from Red/Blue leader were in the novel, as well; so, they were probably in the script. the Special editions had the scene, though no mention of the Jedi in that dialogue.
The Treasury to see was the adaptation of Battlestar Galactica. They really didn’t have complete references and the Galactica is not drawn as seen in the series, despite the cover showing it. Gold Key’s adaptation of the Buck Rogers movie (the theatrical release of the pilot for the Gil Gerard series) had the ships on the cover; but, the Draconian raiders were drawn like 1950s ideas of rockets, ala Werner Von Braun’s Disney Tomorrowland documentary depicts.
I’ll have to make a recording of that compliment at the end and play it for my partner, Barb, the next time she is mad at me.
I had those Star Wars Treasury editions. I think I got them before I saw the movie. I read them over and over and over again. So great. This was a memory I’d forgotten (or words to that effect). The comic store in my hometown, Empire Comics, had the Treasury Editions up above the regular comics on a very high shelf. There was a lot of precarious reaching involved. I had that Spider-Man Team-Up one, the Superman and Spidey versus Doctor Doom and Parasite good time, the Doctor Strange one (which was nothing but the final issues of long-running arcs), Super Friends, a Rudolph and a Shazam. And the moment I moved out of my parent’s house, my Ma got rid of all of them. I would like those Star Wars ones back, please. Great show, guys. Thank you!