Rob welcomes back Dallan Baumgarten to discuss MARVEL TREASURY EDITION #23 starring Conan The Barbarian!
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Regarding whether Conan looks hungover or scared on the back cover. That’s the look of a man who just realized it’s 10 to Midnight on April 15 and he hasn’t filed his taxes yet.
Great ep, obviously. Really enjoyed the discussion of the Marvel Black & White mags. That would make an excellent podcast. I hope it’s something that you’ll consider when Treasurycast is finished. Speaking of which, I’m sad to hear that there is only a year of Treasurycast left. This is my favorite comic book podcast. I discovered it around the same time that I started collecting treasuries and it fuelled an addiction to buying up back issue treasuries whenever I could find them. I’ll sincerely miss this podcast when it’s gone, but I will TREASURE (see what I did there?) every episode that’s left. Can’t wait to see what you have planned for the final year. I really hope that Daniel Clowes’ The Death Ray makes the cut. That’s a dream episode that I’ve always hoped to hear. I always loved that Clowes’ one entry into the superhero genre was printed at treasury scale by Fantagraphics and think the ep could lead to a great discussion of a whole other world of comics that hasn’t really been represented on the show. I’ll keep my fingers crossed for the next 12 months.
Sad its ending. Glad its ending on your terms.
Great episode, as usual. Love me some Conan!
Regarding the pin-up gallery and identifying the uncredited artists: I looked up the issue on the Grand Comics Database, and they list the artists in the gallery as (in order) Alex Nino, Vicente Alcazar, Gray Morrow, Tony DeZuniga, and Tim Conrad.
https://www.comics.org/issue/32957/
Great discussion gents. Sounds land looks like a great comic. I was never much of a Conan guy as a kid, but I sure do appreciate the stories and art much more now. This is definitely pushing the envelope, and it’s odd that I never noticed the tresuries existed outside of the CCA.
Oh, and fun fact, the image of Conan from the splash, sans the clinging maiden, was used by Mego on their Conan packaging, and to crosssell the Cimmerian on other Marvel Mego figures!
Oh, baby! Nice catch, Chris!!
I certainly had the Conan Mego figure as a kid.
I mean, c’mon.
No other Mego figure came with a battle axe!
I have never gotten into Conan despite being a huge fan of just about every other thing that Roy Thomas ever worked on. Nonetheless, I enjoyed this episode. I am one of those kids who kept Richie Rich in business for several years in the late 70s and early 80s. I didn’t buy all of them, but I had a bunch especially the digests. As for the news of this podcast’s imminent end, I am taking the attitude “Don’t be sad because it’s ending. Be happy that it happened.” Thanks for many hours of listening happiness.
Okay, first things first:
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
(That’s because we’re in the last year of Treasury Cast.)
Otherwise, though, good show. The Conan treasuries are always a good topic, because they always contained such good material. Case in point, “A Witch Shall be Born” is a great story; I have it in the first b&w phonebook published by Dark Horse. I wouldn’t mind having a color version, though. Which leads me to ask: didn’t all of the Conan treasuries just (mainly) feature colorized stories from Savage Sword?
Also, reprinting some of the Conan newspaper strips is a great added feature. It’s too bad that the Dark Horse volume that collects them all is long of out print (used copies are prohibitively expensive).
In closing, let me just reiterate:
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
p.s. Hate to disappoint Dallan, but I’ve never seen anyone hungover with the deer-caught-in-the-headlights expression that Conan is making in that back-cover image.
I think any one hung on a cross would scared
Great show great guest that all I got .
not a big Conan the barbarian guy read some of his pulp stories and not my cup of ale . I’m more of a Detective Conan you know case closed . Do I do like the Conan the barbarian what if stories . Mainly the two what if Conan barbarian came to modern times and what if he stayed in modern times. Did Conan the barbarian has joined a group called the savage avengers in modern times a was even a host for venom for a while .
Who bought all those Richie Rich comics? My aunt apparently, because every few months, she would drop by with a 2-3 foot tower of Harveys and Archies bound together with a piece of string. She bought everything, but when she was done, she sent them down to us kids, which is how I learned to read English well before my peers.
True story.
And think some think comics are a waste of time . You just proved them wrong.
Gee I HOPE you get to the litte known Conan vs Rudolph, “Night of the blood red light”;vengence and venison
Well, it’s kind of a shame that you never got around to Giant-Size Kung Fu Bible Stories, but I’ve never spent nine years on any one job, so what more could we ask of you? I don’t think Conan is afraid on the St. Andrew’s cross, because on balance the prime emotion on display is still anger, so maybe his butt itches and he can’t get the right angle within the available slack. Finally, the Freddy Kruger magazine sold phenomenally well, but was cancelled in mid-production of later issues when a higher up (Jim Galton?) got wind that the company was publishing a book about a notorious child murderer and shut it down.
Rob,
Clearly there is a way to wrap up this awesome podcast series at episode #100 while covering all the treasuries. Simply double up, cover two issues per episode and make them two or three hours long. Or triple up. Maybe the last episode would cover, say, ten treasuries in a ten hour marathon. Sound like fun? Rob? Rob? Uh oh, I think he fainted.
Bradley Glynn
I think that’s an excellent proposition, Bradley.
OR, an even easier solution…
Rob could unselfishly cut out ALL his other podcasts (except maybe Mountain Comics and Power Records Podcast, of course) and continue with Treasury Cast unabated.
Everybody knows that comics have always been a more popular medium than movies and television and music combined. Much fewer people will miss Rob’s other pesky podcasts.
AND this frees up time for those extra, marathon Treasury episodes.
Problem solved.
In a weird coincidence, this issue of MTE (#23) with Conan crucified on an “X”-type cross on the back cover was followed by #24 with Adam Warlock crucified on an ankh on the front cover.
About the question of unconventional depictions of dialogue, things that are not wholly word balloons or caption boxes: I’ve never seen a glossary that addresses these explicitly, but on the first page of Chapter Four (posted on the gallery page), in which we see Astreas writing a letter, the contents appear in white boxes with vertices pointing to the letter rather than Astreas’ mouth. Those would still be word balloons, despite their shape. They relate words that have already been expressed by the character, unlike thought balloons, which relate the words to their source by unconnected circles/ovals. However, in the large fourth panel neither Astreas nor his letter appear but his dialogue continues in boxes. Because there’s no “string” and nothing depicted to which to tether them, these are not balloons but “narrative captions”. These should probably use quote marks, unlike the balloons in the first three panels. That’s what was done on the first Sunday strip posted near the end of the gallery, because the ‘narrator’ was also a fictional character, albeit unseen and here unnamed.
Oh, and Conan on the back cover just looks surprised. Vultures are awkard on the ground but they fly pretty fast for something that large and can seem to appear out of nowhere.
Great show, Rob and Dallan. I never really read a lot of Conan, but I always thought the John Buscema art was great. I always figured the Marvel editors went to the bullpen and said, “who can draw beautiful women? Okay, who can draw horses? Now who can draw fur underwear?” And at that point Buscema was the only guy who still had his hand up.
I was always impressed Conan could hoist that double axe over his shoulder without stabbing himself in the back of the neck or head. That must be why all the blondes dug him.
Finally, Richie Rich was a failson and most likely is currently involved in crypto scams.
Brilliant!